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Old 05-03-2014, 08:15 AM   #1
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I wonder if book designers bother to check their choice of font for readability. Perhaps run some speed and comprehension tests using a varied panel of readers. It's not as if books are brochures, where looks usually outweigh utility. And certainly, the font choice should not be so esthetically unappealing that people are turned off. But when a book is 2000 pages long using a small font size, the choice of typeface should not be one with diminutive letter forms.

And then there is the other direction with the "big font" books. Like one that used Warnock Pro in a large size with narrow letter spacing. I'm sure this would look great on an invitation to wine tasting, but in a book it's like sitting three feet from a wide screen TV.

And then there are the designers who segment pages by using color blocks. If it is already hard to read a small font, it makes no sense to use a blue background to make it harder. I emailed them and suggested they use a dividing line to separate things. A few years later the new edition came out. It didn't use lines. It had an even darker shade of blue.

And finally, I've run into a few websites where the publisher provided a PDF with a few pages of the book. This is nice. Try before you buy. I wish they all did this.

   
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I've not seen what you are describing in books but I've seen a lot of it in magazines where they use a small font, colored background with a poor color choice of and foreground (text) color and poor font choice (usually too small more than the font style itself) that I find difficult to read. I don't remember seeing narrow letter spacing in the few large print books I've purchased--basically inadvertently from Better World Books.

Can you give us any titles of the books you are seeing this in?

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Color panels are common in non-fiction books used in educational settings.

   
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Wired Magazine. Our motto: If you can read it, we haven't designed hard enough.

   
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andrew: Color panels are common in non-fiction books used in educational settings.
Ahhh...ok...I think the last how-to book I used is the "Windows 7 Annoyances" book which is out of O'Reilly and their design approach is pretty readable but perhaps that's the exception now?

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steve: Wired Magazine. Our motto: If you can read it, we haven't designed hard enough.
ROFL!! I've not looked at Wired in eons...guess I won't rush out and get a copy anytime soon...'-}}

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Problem with Wired is that it's annoying but interesting enough to be worth putting up with.

   
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One of my problems is I have to mail order everything. I just got another book I cannot read. The compact nature of the book requires a small font size, but they picked a typeface that appears faint on the page. And it's not easy for me to return this stuff, so I usually just give it away (assuming it didn't cost a lot).

   
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That must be really frustrating...who is the publisher?

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The publisher is Holman Bible Publishers

   
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