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Old 03-31-2012, 11:21 AM   #11
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Hearing aids might well help...pricey though and rarely, if ever, covered by insurance...but certainly worth investigating...

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A friend of mine had poor luck with hearing aids (not sure why) but is doing pretty well with a cochlear implant. I thought it was covered by insurance, but I don’t exactly know her circumstances.

   
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Old 03-31-2012, 11:50 AM   #12
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Hearing aids might well help...pricey though and rarely, if ever, covered by insurance...but certainly worth investigating..
I don't know they would help or not because I also have tinnitus. And hearing aids are indeed too pricey, and my insurance does not cover it.

I hadn't thought of close captioning, but I'll give it a try. These days when and if I go to the movies, I always ask for hearing assistance. Some theaters have earphones they'll loan you.

   
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Old 03-31-2012, 01:06 PM   #13
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kt: A friend of mine had poor luck with hearing aids (not sure why) but is doing pretty well with a cochlear implant.
Fitting hearing aids is a real art and you need someone very knowledgeable who is willing to listen to what you have to say during the fitting process. Personally, I would recommend working with a BC-HIS (a hearing instrument specialist) rather than an audiologist because in my experience it's the rare audiologist who really understands how hearing aids work in the real world--the guy I go to is a BC-HIS. He's told me that if someone were to look at my audiogram and then look at how my hearing aids are programed, they'd think it was 2 different people but that programming works for me and Jed really listened to me as we tweaked the settings on my hearing aids.


>>I thought it was covered by insurance, but I don’t exactly know her circumstances.

CI's are covered by insurance. I think because of the surgery invovled. Hearing aids are rarely if ever covered by insurance...

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Old 03-31-2012, 01:12 PM   #14
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susie: I don't know they would help or not because I also have tinnitus.
So do I. While my hearing aids do not mask the tinnitus noise, they don't exacerbate it either.



>>And hearing aids are indeed too pricey, and my insurance does not cover it.

Nobody's insurance covers them. My current hearing aids were bought using that Medical Savings Account thingie where I put money in pre-tax from my paycheck. One thing to consider is that with hearing aids you keep the hearing areas of the brain stimulated so that there is no atrophy of those areas.


>>I hadn't thought of close captioning, but I'll give it a try.

Do...hope that you find it helpful. Most programming is "pre-captioned" so that the captions display simultaneously with the spoken word--vs. live captioning in which there will always be a lag between the spoken word and the captions because the captioner has to hear what the speaker is saying before being able to do the captioning--too bad there aren't any prescient captioners...'-}}



>>These days when and if I go to the movies, I always ask for hearing assistance. Some theaters have earphones they'll loan you.

Yes...assistive listening devices. There are now movies with open captions usually special type showings so I sometimes can go to the movies as there is a theater not too far from me that shows open caption movies.

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>> live captioning in which there will always be a lag between the spoken word and the captions because the captioner has to hear what the speaker is saying before being able to do the captioning

I don't envy the people who have to depend on live captioning, which can be capricious enough under normal circumstances. But every year I attend a conference where some of the speakers at the main sessions get into some fairly technical stuff. They always do captioning on a couple of screens in the front of the room, and considering how good a job they do, it's obvious that the captioners have been briefed on most of the tech terms they're likely to hear. They do an amazing job despite the unusual terminology and mix of speakers, some of whom have heavy accents.

But there are still occasional howlers, some of them pretty funny, so I enjoy watching the captions.

Quite apart from that, the captioners have better sound feeds than we do in the audience; sometimes it's easier to read what they're hearing than to try to understand what we're hearing.

   
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steve: They always do captioning on a couple of screens in the front of the room, and considering how good a job they do, it's obvious that the captioners have been briefed on most of the tech terms they're likely to hear. They do an amazing job despite the unusual terminology and mix of speakers, some of whom have heavy accents.
There are, I believe, captioners who specialize in technical captioning and also they can create dictionaries of terms (and people's names for example) so that things are spelled correctly.

It's wonderful that the conference presentations are captioned--that's called "CART" by the way...


>>But there are still occasional howlers, some of them pretty funny, so I enjoy watching the captions.

Oh yeah...they can be quite hysterically giggle inducing...'-}}

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There are, I believe, captioners who specialize in technical captioning and also they can create dictionaries of terms (and people's names for example) so that things are spelled correctly.

It's wonderful that the conference presentations are captioned--that's called "CART" by the way...


>>But there are still occasional howlers, some of them pretty funny, so I enjoy watching the captions.

Oh yeah...they can be quite hysterically giggle inducing...'-}}

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What does CART stand for (I'm assuming it's an acronym).

Capistrano Area Rapid Transit doesn't seem to fit.

Captioning And Rapid Translation?

And there's a joke in there somewhere about providing that service at a conference of ladies of the night. Putting the CART before the ...

No. I like you too much to do that to you.

   
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Not bad...'-}}

"Computer Assisted Realtime Translation"


>>No. I like you too much to do that to you.

ROFL! '-}}

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One thing to consider is that with hearing aids you keep the hearing areas of the brain stimulated so that there is no atrophy of those areas.
That's good to know. I've not heard that before.

   
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susie: That's good to know. I've not heard that before.
Who knows if it's correct but on any number of levels, it makes sense...sort of use it or lose it...

By the way...are you near any of the tornado destruction down in TX? Hope not...

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