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Old 02-14-2012, 11:29 PM   #51
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Nice image of railroad tracks in snow. Very nice.
And the bicycle sign? Rightmost character is the one for a cart/conveyance/car. In Japanese it'd be the "sha" of "jidosha" (self powered car/conveyance). The leftmost character means "forbidden". I'm guessing the middle two are along the lines of "parking it here" but have no idea.
Where are you seeing the railroad tracks in snow and bicycle sign? I'm missing something, clearly.

   
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Old 02-15-2012, 07:49 AM   #52
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Where are you seeing the railroad tracks in snow and bicycle sign? I'm missing something, clearly.
Via a link from a link to a link to ... well, I started with a link in Marjolein's post.

Marjolein! HELP!

   
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Old 02-15-2012, 12:23 PM   #53
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In my sig: "connecting the online dots..." which is my posterous site.

There...
vvvvv ...more or less (on the second line)

   
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Via a link from a link to a link to ... well, I started with a link in Marjolein's post.

Marjolein! HELP!
LOL - figgered it was something like that.

   
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Aha! Thank you - very nice!

   
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Thank you!

Now try the one that says "My world, My eyes" (I just temporarily changed the URL) - currently that has most of my photos.

   
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And the bicycle sign? Rightmost character is the one for a cart/conveyance/car. In Japanese it'd be the "sha" of "jidosha" (self powered car/conveyance). The leftmost character means "forbidden". I'm guessing the middle two are along the lines of "parking it here" but have no idea.
Armed with my Pleco app I've now tackled the Chinese text - as 4 single characters (LTR):
  1. forbidden
  2. stop / stay (of cars) / be parked
  3. one / single / alone / only
  4. vehicle / wheeled instrument

That clearly suggests the meaning, but the third character gave me pause. So I tried a reverse lookup and entered 'bicycle' and out pops (amongst other things) the two-character word formed by the last two on the sign which the dictionary says is a dialect word for bicycle. (Also, the characters are Traditional Chinese.)

So we get: bicycles [are] forbidden to be parked [here].

   
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Does it give you the pinyin reading for the bicycle character? In Japanese, bicycle is a three-character word: Oneself Turn Car (or maybe historically, wheeled vehicle). A self-powered wheeled vehicle, in other words.

   
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Does it give you the pinyin reading for the bicycle character?
Of course

When I ask for bicycle, the first option it comes up with is chēzi, described as 1) a small vehicle (such as a car, pushcart etc.), 2) (dialect) bicycle. Here, the first character is the fourth in my picture.

The next option is the matching one: dānchē, described as (dialect) bicycle.

There is even a third: jiăotàchē, also described as (dialect) bicycle.

Then there is an option for the verb 'bicycle' and a range of derivations and combinations. That is one (the most extensive) dictionary; the other doesn't mention chēzi, nor does it give the 'dialect' qualifications.

I don't have a way (yet) to type the Chinese characters here, but I might manage a screenshot if you want one.


(BTW, I've also made a start tackling all the text on the Kadok shot, which you can find on my RedBubble page with it. I'll add to it as I figure out more. This is fun!)

   
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How about this instead of screenshots: plug the english into Google Translate, ask for Chinese and back come the characters:

http://translate.google.com/?hl=en&t...|zh-CN|bicycle

Left to right, the first one here is the same as Japanese ("ji" meaning "oneself" and I'm guessing it's read "ji" in Chinese too). The next one is the character for "go". Makes sense ... one makes it go oneself. The last:

http://translate.google.com/?hl=en&t...N|en|%E8%BD%A6

The che would have to be "car" (sha in Japanese, che1 in Pinyin).

I'm not sure how chezi would be pronounced, but "chari" is slang for bicycle in Japanese. Might be somewhat close, eh?

   
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