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Old 09-26-2009, 03:56 PM   #11
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I thought these figures were a good general purpose compromise between old style and lining figures
Yes, and they're noticeably bigger than conventional OS numerals. In Constantia OS numerals are completely conventional, in size as well as form. It will be interesting to see the new Georgia, intended for printing.

   
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Old 09-26-2009, 03:59 PM   #12
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Except for a literary supplement, I doubt a newspaper will have much use for small caps (or oldstyle figures, for that matter).
I don't see Dave's newspaper doing a literary supplement, somehow - not its area of interest.

   
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When it comes to newspapers, tradition trumps typography, every time.

You and I may find old style or lowercase or non-ranging figures easier to read, but newspapers may think them radical.

   
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I don't see Dave's newspaper doing a literary supplement, somehow - not its area of interest.
Now, now — you never can tell! <g>

But I suspect Dave has an idea …

   
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You and I may find old style or lowercase or non-ranging figures easier to read, but newspapers may think them radical
Hutton republished his Mathematical Tables in 1811, and used 'modern face' figures for them for the first time; he thought figures of equal hight easier to read.But de Morgan (died 1871) is said to have clearly shown that old-style numerals are easier to read; this was confirmed, especially by Peters, in Germany. Comrie (editor of Chamber's Shorter Six-Figure Mathmatical Tables, 1950) remarked, 'It is only in the USA that the modern-face figure persists to any extent'.

   
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I don't see Dave's newspaper doing a literary supplement, somehow - not its area of interest.
Its area of interest is presumably anything to do with cereals, so books about cereals are presumably reviewed from time to time; I assume therefore that 'literary' is not a term foreign to farmers. Apart from that, his paper presumably uses a lot of numbers, so he might be interested in fonts that contain OS numerals as well as SCs.

   
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Now, now — you never can tell! <g>

But I suspect Dave has an idea …
Now why is everyone seeing my comment as derogatory?

I'm sure Dave doesn't do so. His paper is doing a great job targeting its intended market.

   
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Now why is everyone seeing my comment as derogatory?
I don't know: I saw nothing derogatory, except possibly for the implication that a paper concerned with corn would have nothing in common with one mainly about money: the Financial Times (one of the few papers not moaning about its circulation) prints some of the best literary reviews.

   
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Not to mention that newspapers no longer have proofreaders providing quality control, and editors and reporters seldom understand typographic features. If the program being used didn't create them automatically, then you would still get typewriter quotes from most of those people. (I can say that ... I used to be a reporter/editor).
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I used to be a reporter/editor).
Me too, but back when all we had was whatever a telex or typewriter would produce. Our Lino operators added the fancy details.

   
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