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Old 09-16-2009, 08:18 AM   #1
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Does anyone have experience writing CSS for handheld media? We're working on new templates for a major redesign at work and are considering including this now rather than having to add it later (as we expect we'll be asked in a year or so...). However, my teammates and I have read about it but no one has any hands on experience yet.

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Old 09-17-2009, 02:39 PM   #2
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Over the last few years I have used Windows Mobile based handhelds and now a G1 Google Android phone to view all types of websites, rarely with an issue. Today's browsers such as Opera mobile and Chrome mobile do not seem to have a requirement for any special css to display the site in the same way as on a large screen monitor. With the ability to scale (zoom) the pages up or down there is little in the way of problems of reading and navigation, subject to manual dexterity with a touch screen or tracker ball.

I prefer the mobile version of Chrome to Opera mobile, although I did read that Opera is the most used mobile browser.

If you see something like this in your server access log:
"Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 1.5; en-gb; T-Mobile G1 Build/CRC37) AppleWebKit/528.5+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.2 Mobile Safari/525.20.1"
Then it is someone using my prefered mobile browser.

I suppose that it would be a help to those who are less dexterous if menu links were slightly further apart, but that is the only css change I would make.

Most of the mobile platforms do not (yet) fully support Flash - so maybe a fixed image could be used as replacement, but in a few moths even that wont be an issue.

I have even used my G1 to order a book from Amazon, complete with filling in card details.

   
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Old 09-17-2009, 05:59 PM   #3
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Agree with Kelvyn. Some things are a little awkward to do - like posting on this forum (I have to select 'quote' to be able to send a reply even if I don't want to quote anything). I can Twitter and use Facebook to my hearts content as well (more of a twitterer than Facebook user).

Not having Flash is a drawback since too many sites rely on it these days.

Otherwise being able to zoom in a page works very well.

I am using Opera Mini on a QVGA screen right now, so everything is small but really crisp!

   
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... so everything is small but really crisp!
Sounds like the last lot of courgettes I picked last night!
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Sounds like the last lot of courgettes I picked last night!
I bet they taste much better than my phone...

   
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Old 09-18-2009, 07:33 AM   #6
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… posting on this forum (I have to select 'quote' to be able to send a reply even if I don't want to quote anything).
Don’t you see Quick Reply at the bottom of the message you are reading? That opens a naked reply window. In fact, depending on browser and your settings, you may see the Quick Reply window just below the post you are reading (I see it in Firefox, but Safari lets one hide it in Additional Options in Safari, as I usually use Quote).

   
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Don’t you see Quick Reply at the bottom of the message you are reading? That opens a naked reply window. In fact, depending on browser and your settings, you may see the Quick Reply window just below the post you are reading (I see it in Firefox, but Safari lets one hide it in Additional Options in Safari, as I usually use Quote).
Yes I do but can't post if I go there. Don't know why.

   
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Yes I do but can't post if I go there. Don't know why.
Hmmm. What browser? Opera? I will see how it works for me.

   
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It's Opera Mini - I can try in the one that comes with the phone to see if that makes any difference.

   
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Hi. This text is being entered in the Quick Reply window in Opera 10. Let’s see if it posts.

   
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