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Old 02-13-2009, 01:10 PM   #1
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For many years I have done personal desktop publishing using Adbobe PageMaker version 7.
Although this software is old it suits my purpose well and having bought a new computer rinning the 64 bit version of Visita PageMaker continues to run without problems.
However, I also used the old TimesNewRomanPS font that was provided many years previously with Adobe TypeManager.
That product refuses to install in a 64-bit operating environment and I am currently stuck with using the normal Windows supplied Times New Roman which personally I like less than the TimesNewRomanPS.
In particular the font set name requred appears to be called
MTR_____.PFM and MTR_____.PFB that lived inside a folder called PSFONTS in my C:\ drive
I am well aware that Adobe no longer support TypeManager and its old fonts but can anyone here advise if there is a way of getting those fonts to work in a Vista-64 environment.
Alternatively is there a font available that will load into the usual Windows font folder that will give me the same result.
As all of the DTP work I do is for non-profit purposes I should prefer, if possible, to use a freeware font.
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Old 02-13-2009, 02:03 PM   #2
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However, I also used the old TimesNewRomanPS font that was provided many years previously with Adobe TypeManager.
That product refuses to install in a 64-bit operating environment and I am currently stuck with using the normal Windows supplied Times New Roman which personally I like less than the TimesNewRomanPS.

I am well aware that Adobe no longer support TypeManager and its old fonts but can anyone here advise if there is a way of getting those fonts to work in a Vista-64 environment.
I don’t know about that (don’t work with Windows). But I do know a bit about fonts.

There is a current OpenType version of Times New Roman PS at MyFonts.com. If you only need the four standard weights (and do not mind having a different font name), you can buy those for about $100 U.S., which would undoubtedly be the easiest solution.

However, they may not match the metrics of your old fonts perfectly; vendors do tweak fonts from time to time, and often when they produce a new format.

The very easiest thing to do would be to bite the bullet and learn to love the version that Microsoft distributes. (Sorry — I know that is not what you want.) Another easy thing would be to use a different font altogether, one you already have — maybe one of the new ones that MS distributes with Vista (Calibri, Cambria, Candara, Consolas, Constantia, Corbel — one of which roughly approximates the TNR metrics; don’t remember which).

More difficult: Convert the fonts you have to a Vista-compatible format, retaining the metrics of your old set. Check out TransFont, Fontlab’s font converter (but that costs more than a new font, so is only sensible if you want to convert more than one family). Someone here may be able to do the conversion for you (perhaps for a small charge).

Monotype has zealously safeguarded the Times New Roman trademark since the 1930s. I do not believe there is any legit free source for it. Bitstream had a clone called Dutch years ago — bundled with several versions of Corel Draw and sold on the 500-font CD for Windows. But these would be very long shots, with every chance that they too would have different metrics (and also might not work in Vista).

Maybe someone else will have better news for you.

   
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I am well aware that Adobe no longer support TypeManager and its old fonts but can anyone here advise if there is a way of getting those fonts to work in a Vista-64 environment.
http://www.adobe.com/type/browser/fo....html#winvista
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However, I also used the old TimesNewRomanPS font that was provided many years previously with Adobe TypeManager.
That product refuses to install in a 64-bit operating environment and I am currently stuck with using the normal Windows supplied Times New Roman which personally I like less than the TimesNewRomanPS.
Type 1 fonts work perfectly well in 32-bit Vista (and don't need ATM), and I don't know of any reason why it should not work in 64-bit Vista if the font files (pfm and pfb) are not damaged. But you might have difficulty in installing a Type 1 font which is essentially identical with an OpenType ttf file, which Windows routinely instals and is difficult to remove from the fonts file.

   
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Old 02-14-2009, 11:28 AM   #5
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As mentioned, Type 1 fonts work fine on Vista 64. ATM is not required. It wasn't required for Type 1 font support on Windows 2000 or XP either. (Except for multiple master fonts.)

It is actually possible to run ATM Deluxe on Vista 64 (I'm doing it right now), but it's a bit of a hack, and not supported or recommended.

Finally, the Times New Roman PS fonts will work fine and not conflict with Times New Roman, but there's unlikely to be any real reason to use both as far as I'm concerned. (There are some programs that simply don't work with Type 1 fonts, of course. Most notable are Visio, AutoCAD, and the WordArt feature of Microsoft Word. There are also a few more specialized apps that don't work with TrueType fonts.)

If you try to install Type 1 fonts and they won't install on Windows, see this post here:
http://www.thomasphinney.com/2008/12/no-font-instal/

To run ATM Deluxe on 32-bit Vista, see this post:
http://blogs.adobe.com/typblography/...m_vista_2.html

For Vista x64, the extra wrinkle is you need to install on a 32-bit system first (even an XP system), and then copy the installed directory over to the 64-bit Vista system. When you launch the app it will ask if you want to rebuild the ATM database, just say yes, and away you go....

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Thanks for stepping in — it figures you would know all about this. Maybe your links will help him solve the problem.

   
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