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Old 08-18-2008, 02:43 AM   #1
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Default Layered tiff problem

I've come across layered tiffs before, but today I've been sent a .tif which has a text layer. It opens easily in Photoshop but with a missing font warning: am I right in saying that it's really a Photoshop file which was simply named as a .tif?

If I ignore the warning, the text changes to something else, but the designer says it can't need a font because... it's a tiff!

it's an odd font that I can't find anywhere: JCkg

   
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Does sound odd.

   
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I've come across layered tiffs before, but today I've been sent a .tif which has a text layer. It opens easily in Photoshop but with a missing font warning: am I right in saying that it's really a Photoshop file which was simply named as a .tif?

If I ignore the warning, the text changes to something else, but the designer says it can't need a font because... it's a tiff!

it's an odd font that I can't find anywhere: JCkg
I searched Y! for [JCkg font] (without the []) and came up with this (first hit): http://www.ghostscript.com/pipermail...il/001599.html

Do an in-page search for JCkg and you find it under the heading "Convenient aliases for PS files on Korean Acrobat Distiller" and it seems to be an alias for Adobe-Korea1.

That's interesting, because on seeing "JCkg" in your message, my first association was an immediate thought "Korea" - I must have come across that somewhere when I was preparing for my NK trip, I guess.

Anyway, hope this helps!

   
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Open the file in a text editor. See if the first couple characters are MM or II. If so, it's probably a TIF. Otherwise, it's something else.

   
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Old 08-19-2008, 09:58 AM   #5
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Looks like you really can have a tiff with a text layer: here's how...
Create a text layer in a new Photoshop document.
Save it as a psd, retaining the layers.
Now save it again, choosing tiff as the file type (PS will change the file extension to tif).
Close PS, then start it again and open the tiff - the text layer remains editable.

   
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Good info ... thanks.

One of the oddities of the TIFF format is that it's extensible. Developers can add different sorts of data to suit their own requirements. If other apps can understand the add'l (non-standard) data, they can make use of it. Otherwise, they're supposed to simply ignore it.

Probably most will ignore the text layer.

   
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Probably most will ignore the text layer.
Guess that's the problem. Recipient might not even realise there's a missing text layer till the client sees the published document and shouts down the phone.

   
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Learned that way back. Client always gets a press-optimised PDF (with viewing instructions) before we go further, and usually a matchprint as well.

   
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I've even heard of multi-page tiffs: some HP software for their all-in-one printer-scanner-copier-fax-teamakers allow you to scan multiple pages into one tiff, though I've never tried it.

   
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I've even heard of multi-page tiffs: some HP software for their all-in-one printer-scanner-copier-fax-teamakers allow you to scan multiple pages into one tiff, though I've never tried it.
Multi-page TIFFs have been around for a long time. About 10 years ago we started getting faxes as multi-page TIFFs, and the specialised software used to digitise archives and professional papers produces multi-page TIFFs.

   
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