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Old 03-24-2008, 06:32 AM   #1
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I have a G5 with OSX 10.3.9 that has a huge bad block in the harddrive. I plan to reformat the drive. I also have a MiniMac with OSX 10.4. My question is, can I use Carbon Copy Cloner (or similar) to clone the newer OS and everthing else from the MiniMac to the G5? I'm not very Mac-saavy, and a google search turned up this statement (bolding is mine) on www.index-site.com/backup.html:
Backup software which makes duplicate (also known as clone or mirror backups). These backups will boot any system that is capable of Firewire target disk mode, as that was another one of the features those systems got. To ensure that a clone works, select the destination drive in the Finder, by clicking it once, and selecting Get Info in the File menu, and uncheck "Ignore Privileges". If your clone is successful, then it should be able to boot the same system.
Important Note: Cloning to another computer via Target Disk Mode is NOT recommended. Apple's drivers are system specific, even with universal installs. Attempting to clone from one Mac model to another of a different vintage or model name, can result in kernel panics on the clone.
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Old 03-24-2008, 08:16 AM   #2
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Yes, I think you'd be asking for trouble, especially if the Mini is an Intel machine.

ISTR that one of the options on the OSX installer routine is to move files from an "old" machine to a "new" machine (what you would do if you'd just bought a new Mac and wanted to transfer your files and settings from the old one). That's what I'd do. (Though I admit I've never run this option). Run the Tiger (OSX 10.4) installer on the G5 once you've reformatted the hard drive. That way the installer will transfer all the correct files, settings and drivers and skip the bad ones. This routine probably uses FW target disk mode.

   
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Unfortunately, the 10.4 is the OS on the Mini (and yes, its an Intel). The G5 came with 10.3, and I don't think the Mini's OS disk will run on the G5, which leaves me with the older OS, which is why I asked if I could clone FROM the Mini and its newer OS to the G5 and replace the 10.3
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I decided against the cloning idea, too risky. Backed up keychains, bookmarks, mail, add book, app support, preferences, etc and erased/reinstalled original OSX. Entire HD came back, including the 100 gigs lost in the bad block. Reinstalled software from original CDs, replaced stuff above, and I'm up and going in one day. Yeah!
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I decided against the cloning idea, too risky. Backed up keychains, bookmarks, mail, add book, app support, preferences, etc and erased/reinstalled original OSX. Entire HD came back, including the 100 gigs lost in the bad block. Reinstalled software from original CDs, replaced stuff above, and I'm up and going in one day. Yeah!
Excellent!

Sounds like a lot of work, though.

   
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Good deal. I know it can be a PITA doing all the reinstalls--I'm especially apprehensive when it comes to those downloaded applications that you pay for but don't get an install disc, like MacGPS, VueScan, etc. I record the security keys and serial numbers with religious fervour and save the email receipts as PDF files, and haven't had any trouble.

I think you made the right move--better safe than sorry, and thanks for letting us know how it turned out.

   
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Good deal. I know it can be a PITA doing all the reinstalls--I'm especially apprehensive when it comes to those downloaded applications that you pay for but don't get an install disc, like MacGPS, VueScan, etc. I record the security keys and serial numbers with religious fervour and save the email receipts as PDF files, and haven't had any trouble.
I use an external HD dedicated to all my downloads, including paid-for, trial, and to-be-considered software (with various fall-backs). For each application/plugin/whatnot I have a directory in a category directory tree, with relevant bookmarks (home page, FAQ, support, downloads...), the actual download (usually with version number added to the file name so I can keep a history), evaluation notes, copies of emails with registration numbers, etc. I have downloads and registration keys from years and years back.

(Still some older stuff on CDs and ZIP disks but all that will go on my "Downloads" drive, too. I need to do some cleaning up, then I can use an identical drive as a mirror of my download drive.)

   
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