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Old 02-13-2008, 01:08 PM   #11
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What you show there is an upsilon, not a nu (which is "sharper" - look a few rows above to where the nu comes just after the mu in the alphabet).

I guess you could use a regular nu with a combining circumflex.
IIRC what I showed in my message was pasted in from:

http://www.iangraham.org/books/xhtml...en_symbol.html

957 03BD ν nu ν greek small letter nu

which is not to say that the character set here reproduced it correctly.

The same would be true if I'd pasted it in from the Porson fontset I imagine -- unless the viewer had that fontset and this site could use it?

   
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Old 02-14-2008, 10:38 PM   #12
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What you showed in your first screenshot (and which I replied to) was an upsilon with a circonflex. Compare that with the nu (no circonflex) in the alphabet above it (same screen shot) and you see that the nu is sharper, so the character with the circonflex you selected would be the wrong choice if a nu is what's needed.

   
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Old 02-15-2008, 11:48 AM   #13
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I believe you -- all I'm saying is where I got it from.

   
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Old 02-15-2008, 12:26 PM   #14
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What you showed in your first screenshot (and which I replied to) was an upsilon with a circumflex
Hugh did indeed show you an upsilon with perispomenos (I looked that up), and for the obvious reason: the Greeks have never used a nu with a perispomenos, so no one provides it. Probably the best way of getting it is by using a program that has facilities for combining all sorts of physical symbols and operators used in mathematical expressions: the obvious one is Tex (you'll have to excuse my using an x for a chi), but there are other, newer ones.

The similarity of italic v to either upsilon or nu (dependent on whether its apex is rounded or pointed) is a known pitfall for typesetters and readers.

   
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Old 02-15-2008, 04:39 PM   #15
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Thanks -- I did say "looks like it" <g>

   
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Old 02-16-2008, 08:19 AM   #16
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I did say "looks like it"
Yes, you did. It is advisable for anyone to make certain that the description helpfully under every picture selected in a character map actually matches what you think you are seeing. Of course, you're scuppered when it comes to a font such as OUP Porson Greek! I'm always being caught out when looking for the degree symbol, which looks indistinguishable from a raised o or even a to my eyes.

   
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Lots of discussion, but no reply from you. What have you decided about using this character?
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Old 02-17-2008, 02:35 PM   #18
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You mean ALT + 0176 that is one of the ones I have on a post-it on my screen border .....

   
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Old 02-18-2008, 07:03 AM   #19
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You mean ALT + 0176 that is one of the ones I have on a post-it on my screen border
Yes, that's the right one: the degree symbol; I'm always getting it mixed up with Alt+0186, which is the masculine ordinal sign (I think), and as it's an o, looks very like it.

   
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