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Old 12-23-2007, 11:03 AM   #1
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Default IIci: Out of the Closet

Pardon the antiquarian bent of this, but it amuses me. I never owned a Mac in the IIci days, and yet I now own two IIcis.

That's right, they're not in the closet, they're working. They're basically toys, because I like old stuff, but they do do duty from time to time on film sets, as working antiques. Once a year someone brings over a Mac floppy or a Bernoulli to read.

I've learned a lot in a couple of dozen hours of fiddling, so let's start with that.

They're both 20MB machines, both with low-end Radius 24x cards, which I run in 800x600xthousands on multisync CRT monitors. With
this help, the machines are actually pleasant wordprocessors, with the site-licensed Word 5.1a that's on them. (I think it's
half legal, since I still know the guy in the NYC ad agency who gave the boxes to me.) Excel 4 is there, and also Quark 3.11,
which I haven't the faintest idea of how to use. The rest is a forest of freeware and shareware utils - some from the old
DTPFORum, some from the web (and lots paid for when I first got the machines in 1996.) Both have 10MB net cards and cache cards.

The hard disks were kinda full, and the SCSI busses are cranky. Recently, a friend gave me a box-full of narrow 1-2G HDs for
the cost of shipping, and I could finally do the free upgrade from Sys 7.1 to 7.5.5. I now can experience the magic of Open
Transport, and actually stay on the web for a whole half hour without crashing, if I watch where I go. I enabled the soupcon of
virtual memory, and the whole machine suddenly got a lot smoother and less crash-prone (although closing a program takes much
longer). Whoopeee, and all that. So now I have two appallingly slow antiques that take up half my life, right? Yes, but bear with me - it's the holidays.

Where I'm totally lost is in the world of PS and TT fonts. These questions may seem very basic to a Machead, but
remember, I'm a PC guy with just an iBook 12 to keep me warm, and I'm more techie than I am a classic Apple-user or design pro.
So, suddenly it's 1996-7, and here are my questions:

o White papers on the Apple site have taught me about early TT, Apple flavor, and something about Type 1. The fonts folder
contains some suitcases, and some fonts that I owned in Mac format, but some of the suitcases appear to contain only
bitmaps/screenfonts.

o There's a program in the Apple menu that bills itself as "Suitcase 2.10p3," with an Apple copyright. I gather this is an
ancestor of the Extensis program? I can make "sets" of fonts with it, but I can't see any effect on the font folder when I do.
Am I missing part of the program?

o There's a Control Panel called "ATM 3.83," but again I can't see any action in the font folder when I fiddle with it. Am I
missing a secret half of this, too? It looks like the stripper version of ATM, and Hypercard won't run without it. But
Hypercard complains about a "corrupt ATM database," and ATM won't create a new database. It also apparently doesn't pre-load
printer fonts to the printer, if that's what it's supposed to do. The database I do have is dated 1992(!), well before I got
the machines. And the free ATM 4 needs PPC. Hints?

o The only sort-of-PS printer in the house is a Brother laser AIO, which is equipped with duplexing and "BR-Script 3,"
supposedly a PS 3 clone. Yeah, right. It has built-in, weirdly-named equivalents to the standard 13, or 35 (some people count
faces, some variants, apparently?). I have no screen fonts for these. The Brother has 32MB of memory, which is far more than
the usual Laserwriter had, right, without a hard disk? Yet I get out-of-mem errors when I try to send fonts to the Brother with
either Adobe's or a shareware manual downloader. OTOH, Word manages just fine with its clone Arial and TimesNR TTs. They load
on the fly, and print reasonably in (two weights +ital), with OK letterspacing. All this, BTW, is using the stock Laserwriter 8 driver that comes with System 7.5, most of it as a "IINTX," since that was the jazziest printer model I remembered (g).

o Now, communicating with these old Macs is not easy. Apple dropped the Appletalk version that the IIci speaks. No USB, so
I'm forced to use FTP. I own the core 13 in PC variants, but these are PFB/PFM. There used to be AFMs on CompuServe, and I used
to understand this stuff, but it's been too long. Friends shower me with pirated font CDS. I wince, but my natural inclination
not to pirate is reinforced - they're all on pirated HFS+ CDs that an old Mac can't read, and by the time I ftp them over from
the iBook (because Apple dropped the Appletalk version that the IIci speaks), they have the wrong type and creator. I have no
idea how to create the info/naming/hinting stuff in a Mac flavor. That all used to be in the magic Suitcase itself, right?
It's not just a container, or a magic folder, but a sort-of data fork?

I was hoping, perhaps vainly, for a leg up from someone who understands this. And no, I can't even play with the clone PS on
the printer from the commandline. BR-3 is apparently not an interpreter, at least over a network cable. That lets out most of
the diagnostics I have, and using UNIX PSfonts (ASCII format).

Even the non-techies can help, just by explaining what they saw on a properly configured 68k Mac, these many years ago. And happy holidays!
-Frank

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Old 12-23-2007, 11:41 AM   #2
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About the fonts: Suitcase contain only bitmapped (screen) fonts. Printer fonts are separate files, one per font (regular, italic, bold, bold-italic, say).

In the early days there were bitmap-only fonts. I though they were gone by System 7, but the memory gets hazy about the various transitions. If you have any, they might be Geneva, Monaco, New York, etc. But I am pretty sure, Apple introduced TT versions with System 7 or 7.5, probably still to be used with the screen font suitcase.

Your ATM is just that — a screen font rasterizer (and possibly a printer rasterizer as well) — not ATM Deluxe, which was the world’s best font manager for the Mac. Without ATM, only fonts with bitmaps of the appropriate size (probably 9, 10, 12, 14, 18, 24 point) will be readable on-screen. ATM made them all work.

I cannot remember what that early Suitcase could do, so you need to experiment. Pretty sure it enables you to move fonts out of the official Fonts folder into others under your control, and let Suitcase open (activate) and close them. Probably all a manual operation, and you may have to close those old apps and relaunch to see the font changes.

I never had a ci, but I did (do) own a Mac II, and I have all the old manuals and junk that went with it. You’re welcome to come up to Connecticut and rummage through my basement (clean and dry, but sort of random storage in boxes).

I think forum member Brad Walrod once had a IIci — maybe he will respond to your thread title.

   
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Old 12-23-2007, 02:04 PM   #3
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Well, a couple of the suitcases seem to contain PS fonts as well. They're ID'd as such when I CMD-I them. But what do I know?

Most of the PS fonts are, indeed outside the suitcases. And some are missing.

Mr. Phinney, Mr. Cornicello, and other luminaries from the old days might know also, yes?
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Well, a couple of the suitcases seem to contain PS fonts as well. They're ID'd as such when I CMD-I them. But what do I know?

Most of the PS fonts are, indeed outside the suitcases. And some are missing.

Mr. Phinney, Mr. Cornicello, and other luminaries from the old days might know also, yes?
I’m not sure how one could put the outline fonts in a suitcase, but my memory may be dim. Sure, Tom and John are certain to know.

Missing fonts and font parts could happen easily enough, I guess. Not on my watch, but I am a type nut even if not a techie.

   
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I’m not sure how one could put the outline fonts in a suitcase, but my memory may be dim. Sure, Tom and John are certain to know.

Missing fonts and font parts could happen easily enough, I guess. Not on my watch, but I am a type nut even if not a techie.
No, the outlines can't go in the suitcases. When using ATM deluxe (or possibly any font manager) though, the outlines could be anywhere, as long as ONE activated suitcase was in the same folder.

Suitcase does not affect the Fonts folder directly. (When did that folder come into existence? 7.1?) It activates fonts which can be stored anywhere (on the startup volume? Memory is hazy.)

I *MAY* still be able to find a Quark 3 manual at work, but it's a slim chance.
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No, the outlines can't go in the suitcases. When using ATM deluxe (or possibly any font manager) though, the outlines could be anywhere, as long as ONE activated suitcase was in the same folder.

Suitcase does not affect the Fonts folder directly. (When did that folder come into existence? 7.1?) It activates fonts which can be stored anywhere (on the startup volume? Memory is hazy.)

I *MAY* still be able to find a Quark 3 manual at work, but it's a slim chance.
I actually have that manual, now that you remind me. I would have to ask Jack to go to the basement to root it out. Perhaps I will get to that today or tomorrow. We dug it out for someone else a month or two ago.

   
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KT, no need to brave the cellar for me - I'm not going to learn Quark in this life, for sure.

I'd just like to jam a couple of fonts successfully to the printer, and print a PSfile or two (mostly old manuals and stuff).

Remember, I never do any work with my computers; I just tweak them. You guys are so goal-oriented (g).

That's not to say I might not buy an old copy of ATM Deluxe you might have lying around.

(The web says the dedicated font folder came in in 7.1, my starting point (unless you count Apple IIs and Lisas)).
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KT, no need to brave the cellar for me - I'm not going to learn Quark in this life, for sure.

Remember, I never do any work with my computers; I just tweak them.
Whew!

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(The web says the dedicated font folder came in in 7.1
Sounds about right.

   
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