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Old 08-14-2007, 08:56 PM   #1
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What is it with web designers that they think something is wrong with black text? I am really tired of having trouble reading low contrast text.

I acknowledge that I run my monitor at pretty high resolution (1600x1200 on a 19" CRT), but I am certain that if they problem text was 100% black I would have not problem.

Rant over. The specific text in question is marked #868686. Does anyone know how to convert that to %K ? My first thought is 86%, but it seems much light to be that. It really looks to be under 40%.
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Bob: such values are measured in 256 steps (0-255), so R86 G86 B86 is not 86% black, but 86/255, or about 34%.

(Much too light to read properly, certainly!)
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Old 08-15-2007, 03:07 AM   #3
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What is it with web designers that they think something is wrong with black text? ...
Grey text, or any text without enough contrast with the background can be very annoying to read, even with making it larger with the browser view.

One solution, if you really want to see the text is to copy it into the clipboard and paste it into MS Word ore even notepad. I only do this with something technical that I really want to read.
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Old 08-15-2007, 05:09 AM   #4
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Many web browsers have the ability to override sites' style, and use a pre-determined font, size and colour of text. Some even allow you to specify your own CSS style-sheet for HTML tags.
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Thanks. Somehow that was escaping my poor brain last night. I thought it was under 40%.

Still does not answer the question: why do designers think this is a good idea?
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Old 08-15-2007, 07:37 AM   #6
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Been there, done that. That page that got me raving was a form. It was late, my eyes were tired. The page was very simple and uncluttered. AND hard to read.

Actually, I think I can answer my question in one way. Inadequate real-world testing. Just as we know that one needs to test pages with various browsers, one also needs to test with various screen sizes and resolutions. If I were using this display at 1024x768, it might have not been a problem.

I suspect the real artsy designers would say that light gray text enhances the feeling of openness of the page.
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I am using Firefox that permits some of that, totally messing up a page. Try this one in FF with Page Style=No Style.....
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I am using Firefox that permits some of that, totally messing up a page. Try this one in FF with Page Style=No Style.....
No style would be a mess all too often.

I think you have to write your own style sheet — in which all text would be black!

   
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I occasionally use dark grey text for things like footers or "sidebox" text to set it off from the main body text, but never light grey.

   
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