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Old 07-18-2007, 12:36 PM   #1
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Default Apple displays on Win systems

I knew I could find some statement of this from Apple, and thanks to Howard Allen on Snarkish for pointing it out. See the attached.

In the same discussion, Jim Nichol pointed out that a 23-inch would work so long as the PC graphics card supports DVI with DDC technology for widescreen viewing. But a 30-inch requires two DVI connections.

One cool thing is that the USB2 and Firewire ports on the monitor do work with PC installations. There is more information at this Apple page and on the tech specs page. (It does not appear that Apple is really pushing for Windows business — the compatibility information is dribbled out in little spurts all over the site!)

Appears to be easy enough to do after all. Do you have a laptop with the appropriate video card so you could go to an Apple store and ask to hook up to one of the displays?
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Old 07-18-2007, 01:05 PM   #2
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This appears a lot more straightforward than I remember reading when the Cinema Displays first came out...

The pertinent question though is, is it worth the extra $$$ to buy a Cinema Display when there are a number of other LCD displays available that meet/exceed the Apple display specs.

Additionally, I've read enough posts on Apple's Colorsync Users list to question the quality of the Apple displays--not a huge number of posts about problem displays but enough to set off a warning bell for me...

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>> Do you have a laptop with the appropriate video card so you could go to an Apple store and ask to hook up to one of the displays?

There may be PC laptops with DVI video out but I don't recall ever having seen one. Sure as heck I've not seen one with two. Why two, I wonder? Unless the thing's really two monitors spliced together into a single case? [Steve, read the link]. Uh. Right.

Ah. NOT dual DVI connectors but *a* Dual Link DVI connector.
http://www.datapro.net/techinfo/dvi_info.html

   
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Steve...thanks for that link...interesting...I didn't realize there were so many flavors of DVI connections...

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Thanks for the detective work! I have no idea what DDC technology is, but a brief google seems to hint that the new fancy video cards -- at least the ones with DVI doohickeys -- have it.

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Maybe they are afraid of PC cooties.

My laptop is several years old, so I'm sure it has the wrong kind of video card. However, it would be fun to return to the Apple store and propose hooking up a dreaded Windows machine to the Apple monitor. <tee hee>

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This appears a lot more straightforward than I remember reading when the Cinema Displays first came out...

The pertinent question though is, is it worth the extra $$$ to buy a Cinema Display when there are a number of other LCD displays available that meet/exceed the Apple display specs.

Additionally, I've read enough posts on Apple's Colorsync Users list to question the quality of the Apple displays--not a huge number of posts about problem displays but enough to set off a warning bell for me...
I see bitching about almost every brand of LCD monitor. On the other hand, I have absolutely no complaints about mine, which will be four years old in October.

As for the price, I was also surprised to see how they have come down. I paid something like $1200 for my 23-inch display. Now it costs $900.

Anyway, I don’t know how quality and price compare, and don’t know if Marlene should mess around with platform issues (I think she likes to keep things simple, as do I). But it was surprising to see that it can be done without a lot of folderol, if the Apple information is accurate.

   
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kt: I see bitching about almost every brand of LCD monitor. On the other hand, I have absolutely no complaints about mine, which will be four years old in October.
It's the newer ones that I've seen the complaints about and if I'm remembering correctly, the problems were very visible right out of the box...I was sort of surprised because I've always heard good things about the quality of Apple hardware.


>>As for the price, I was also surprised to see how they have come down. I paid something like $1200 for my 23-inch display. Now it costs $900.

Yeah...prices have come down a lot...

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However, it would be fun to return to the Apple store and propose hooking up a dreaded Windows machine to the Apple monitor. <tee hee>
I suspect that if you find an intelligent (or better trained) salesguy there, you would be able to. In fact, I wonder if they don’t have a PC around for just such a purpose.

We don’t have an Apple store so I go to CompUSA, of all places. An Apple employee works there, and he dials Apple in CA at the drop of a hat if he needs to know something. I am still shaking my head at the ignorance, laziness, and arrogance of the salesman you ran into, which is why I tried to find out for you.

It would most likely not make great sense for you to buy an Apple monitor — unless it turns out to be the best at the price and no big deal to hook up — but you certainly have the right to accurate information.

   
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>> Do you have a laptop with the appropriate video card so you could go to an Apple store and ask to hook up to one of the displays?

There may be PC laptops with DVI video out but I don't recall ever having seen one.
I think the newest crop of Mac Duo laptops do (Ann bought a cinema display to use with the 17-inch laptop she bought recently). But that is very likely the first generation that does. Probably began with the Intel Macs.

Anyway, I had a momentary sense of being foolish when I suggested that, but sailed ahead anyway!

   
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Care to make a small wager on that? <LOL>

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