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Old 06-01-2007, 05:06 PM   #1
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I came across an interesting article today when Googling on guillemets!

HTML authoring in French
This document discusses some basic problems with accented characters, guillemets, etc., when authoring HTML documents in French.

I was married to a French teacher and librarian for about 30 years and never knew the French put a thin space before a colon!

As is often the case this led me on to other papers by the author, who is Finnish and at a Finnish University.

They are a bit old, referring to IE4 I see, but I found them interesting, not that I do any HTML coding.

IT and communication by Jukka "Yucca" Korpela.

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Old 06-02-2007, 12:58 AM   #2
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I came across an interesting article today when Googling on guillemets!

HTML authoring in French
This document discusses some basic problems with accented characters, guillemets, etc., when authoring HTML documents in French.

I was married to a French teacher and librarian for about 30 years and never knew the French put a thin space before a colon!
And if you don't have a "thin space", use a space - that's better than no space! Some other punctuation takes spaces, too. This is one reason why, when preparing software for internationalization, the strings (defined) to be translated have to be full phrases including all punctuation. (Full phrases, too, because word order, and even clause order may differ between languages.)

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As is often the case this led me on to other papers by the author, who is Finnish and at a Finnish University.
Yucca is awesome, and a real authority on matters of characters and character encodings. Go right to the source and bookmark!

Just to illustrate how much of an "authority" he is, even though he's mostly known for his excellent pages on characters and encodings, this excellent reference page on Navigation & Labeling lists no less than 4 articles by him (one unlinked - it seems to have disappeared). And one from 'our' Lois Wakeman.

Lately he's also been active in the accessibility community on several lists.

   
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And if you don't have a "thin space", use a space
French printers generally had a very generous 'thin space' before colons in the days of hot-metal, and the English printers used pretty generous hair-spaces. But there is a special space (em/8, I think) in the Unicode collection of spaces—but very few fonts include them.

   
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Old 06-02-2007, 08:59 AM   #4
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I reckoned you would be able to fill in a lot <s>

"The source" already bookmarked

   
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Wow ! It really is an excellent reference page for web site concepts and details. Bookmark it now and browse the links at your leisure !!

Thanks MK

   
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