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Old 02-24-2007, 04:46 AM   #1
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Well I've finally given up on the new improved Windows Media Player version 11. You would think it would be a simple matter to associate mp3 files that I have named and organised in directories which I have also named and organised with a couple of playlists that I would also like to name, but can't. It used to be the case that I could right-click on a file in Explorer and there would be an option to add it to a playlist. Simple. Job done. Can't do that in version 11, it's been improved, you see...

I tried iTunes but must have done something wrong because it helpfully and enthusiastically embarked upon a process of renaming my carefully organised files and placing them into more convenient new directories and subdirectories. Try to imagine my displeasure when it had finished and I discovered what it had done!

I've never come across software that works - or in my case doesn't - in an entirely alien and unintuitive way. I'm sure that it must make sense to someone but I'm obviously missing something completely fundamental because it makes absolutely no sense to me. And, yes, I have tried to work through the Help files and I have, in fact, spent a good few hours trying to get it to do something that ought to be very, very basic. I have failed.

There must be software out there that does what it says on the tin, but I haven't found it yet. Meanwhile, I've rolled back to WMP version 10 which ain't perfect - it seems that it can't even rip a CD unless you shell out $10 for a codec - but it'll have to do...;-(
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Old 02-24-2007, 06:05 AM   #2
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My copy of iTunes is older and for MacOS, but surely there's a similar preference setting in the current version. Under the Advanced tab in Preferences there's a checkbox next to "Keep iTunes Music folder organized". If that's checked in yours, try unchecking it and reimporting your MP3 collection. (See attached screen capture.)
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Old 02-24-2007, 08:14 AM   #3
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Under the Advanced tab in Preferences there's a checkbox next to "Keep iTunes Music folder organized". If that's checked in yours, try unchecking it and reimporting your MP3 collection.
That was indeed the culprit. I just found myself going round in circles with both pieces of software - an intensely frustrating business!

I do use iTunes to rip CDs and I may try to make friends with it again - I haven't yet forgiven it for renaming my files though...;-(

I did notice that it lists a few internet radio stations. They're a wee bit obscure but I do listen to the radio a lot, mostly the BBC from their website. It got me wondering, though, whether there's an easy way to locate a wider selection of internet radio stations? I've tried once or twice to find a sensible directory of them but usually end up getting bogged down in dross.

It also got me wondering if there's any software that makes it convenient to actually record a radio programme in the same way that you record TV programmes? Just a thought...
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Old 02-24-2007, 10:24 PM   #4
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I did notice that it lists a few internet radio stations. They're a wee bit obscure but I do listen to the radio a lot, mostly the BBC from their website. It got me wondering, though, whether there's an easy way to locate a wider selection of internet radio stations? I've tried once or twice to find a sensible directory of them but usually end up getting bogged down in dross.
Go to http://shoutcast.com/ tons of radio stations, and searchable by keyword and category. I use Winamp to listen to them (and bookmark them as well - though some will occasionally move to a new address - then I just go through the list, find them back, re-bookmark them). iTunes is compatible with shoutcast streams - but I won't touch it! (I once installed it and almost immediately unistalled it in horror. I found it intensely stupid in how it approaches "organizing" music. It's forever banned.)

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It also got me wondering if there's any software that makes it convenient to actually record a radio programme in the same way that you record TV programmes? Just a thought...
Several options here, too. I have the "Streamripper" plugin for Winamp which, when enabled, attempts to rip individual tracks to MP3s. On some stations this works very well - provided the tracks are clearly labeled and there's a slight pause between one track and the next. If necessary, Audacity can be used to crop, splice and join tracks (provided they didn't fade one into the other on the radio; then it's hopeless, of course). Audacity can also be used to directly record the sound in your computer, from different sources. Both tools are freeware.

   
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Your comment prompted me to try and allow iTunes one last chance to redeem itself. Here's what happened when I try to rip a track from a CD and import it into the Library

1. File > Import...
2. select a track - rips it to a directory OK and calls it Track 01
3. it's now also in the Library
3. I rename it to something sensible and move it a directory of choice
4. I delete Track 01 from the Library
5. File > Add to Library
6. select the renamed file in the directory of choice
7. iTunes imports it to the Library but calls it Track 01
8. I start to swear a little....

Doh!! I wanted to like iTunes, I really did. I guess we're just not made for each other....;-(
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Go to http://shoutcast.com/ tons of radio stations, and searchable by keyword and category.
Thanks for that Marjolein. I will investigate further. Always nice to try and discover different perspectives on world events so I'm hopeful that there's a diverse selection of stations.

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Several options here, too. I have the "Streamripper" plugin for Winamp which, when enabled, attempts to rip individual tracks to MP3s.
I was thinking really of something that has the ability to schedule a recording like you schedule a recording of a TV program. Haven't had a chance to look at Streamripper and maybe it does do that but I suspect that I'm being over-optimistic.

No matter, I'll give Shoutcast a whirl as a first step - thanks again.
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