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Old 01-16-2007, 12:32 PM   #1
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Default Full-Page/outsize Image Bleeds - Help!

First, I'm a baby at DTP! I went on no courses or anything like that.

I'm dtp'ing an 8" x 10" 56-page booklet with lots of colour photos. The centrefold is to be a single photo which goes right up to the edges all round - no margins, page numbers, or anything else. I've cropped and split the image in two, so that it fits just right on both pages. The printer has specified that in order to accommodate this, the whole book should be printed on 8.25 x 10.25 PDF pages - no problem with that - but also that the centrefold images should be 8.25 x 10.25, thus exceeding the 8 x 10 I'm working in.

I'm using Pagemaker 7.0 on Windows, and the PMD pages are 8 x 10, so the centrefold images exceed the page size. I presume as a consequence of this, the centrefold won't print to PDF, whether I print directly to CutePDF or go via Distiller, using a PostScript save (it won't make a PostScript file), or any other method I've tried.

I suggested to the printer that I create a separate PMD doc for just those two pages, and size that in Pagemaker at 8.25 x 10.25, which would produce what I think is the desired result - a full 8.25 x 10.25 PDF of the centre images, which can easily be merged into the rest of the document.

I've tried reading the manual and scouring the net, and I've don't think I'm doing anything silly (I'll gladly stand corrected, if I find out what I need to know), but the info is hard to find, so - if it's possible to print a pdf of a Pagemaker 7 page with outsize images, could someone please tell me how? And is there anything wrong with the method I suggested?


If anyone's interested, the image is of a lot of marine bivalve molluscs in Florida...
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Old 01-17-2007, 09:33 AM   #2
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Fraid I don't know PM at all: but can you set a custom page size to allow for the bleed and get it to print crop marks? That's a fairly common feature of DTP programs.

AFAIK, you can't "print" outside the real page margins using any method!
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Old 01-17-2007, 02:24 PM   #3
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Thanks, Lois.
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AFAIK, you can't "print" outside the real page margins using any method!
Yeah, that's what I came to realise. However, I re-suggested we try it my way - to set up a new document just for the pages concerned, with the real pages sized at 8.25 x 10.25, then fill the pages right up to all edges, print the PDF and merge it with the rest of the book (in any case, I work on 10-12 page chunks at a time, simply because I'm doing all this on a laptop with 0.5 Gb RAM, which wouldn't cope with the image-heavy book all at once, so it's no big deal to create a separate doc just for those pages. A decent desktop machine is in the pipeline, but this is real publishing-on-a-shoestring stuff ). The printer agreed to give it a try - so I sent off a 4-page test file comprising those two pages and the preceeding and following pages, and to my relief it worked.

I've been patting myself on the back... ...but I'd love to find out what the printer meant. So much to learn, so little time.
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