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Old 03-02-2005, 03:13 PM   #1
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Does Illustrator work better if you embed images or link to external files? And what about InDesign? CorelDraw seems to prefer them to be embedded, Quark doesn't seem to embed anything, and PageMaker appears not to mind either way. I don't remember which way works best with FreeHand and, as nobody's ever sent me a Ventura document, I can't comment on that one.

For me, links are useful because I can edit an image and the layout program will update automatically - with a bit of luck. But I also like to embed because everything's in one, neat file.

Do you have a preference? Do let me know.

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I've always been taught not to embed, particularly because of the auto-update capabilities...I've done both...I'll often embed when it's something just for my use and I will be moving/deleting the image files...

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Old 03-02-2005, 05:20 PM   #3
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Does Illustrator work better if you embed images or link to external files?
Why are you putting an image (bitmap, I assume) into Illustrator? As a template? Just use the place function and say it is a template.

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And what about InDesign?
That’s a different story — better to link. (Embedding was certainly a dreadful idea with PageMaker!)

   
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Why are you putting an image into Illustrator?
Not to make templates: many of my CD customers won't pay over a grand for DaukXPress, so they use other programs (eg Frustrator) as a layout program instead. Most artwork arrives here wrong in one way or another, and we have to fix it before sending it off for printing, so I have to have rather more than a working knowledge of loads of 'em. Mind you, it pays the mortgage <g>.
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Illustrator 9, 10 & 11(CS) have progressively gotten worse about this... as they add features, specifically raster effects like shadows, they tend to need to embed the image(s) to make things work. AI file sizes are huge now, because of the default option to "Save PDF Compatible" Illustrator files -- so even if you "link" the image(s), they're still being saved into the save file.

There shouldn't be any harm either way -- if you're worried about the old pre-press habit of NOT embedding, keep in mind that you should probably be saving the file as a press-ready PDF anyway (rather than as a native Illustrator file).

   
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Mind you, it pays the mortgage <g>.
I do hope so! <g>

   
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I always save as a native file (in the format it was supplied to be) and as a Press PDF. The former so the client can see how to do it properly, and the latter so we can print the damn thing <gg>
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I do hope so! <g>
Exactly so. I really love what I do, but at the end of the day if it doesn't pay the bills it's time to move on. Business is picking up a bit, but there are just so many competitors around these days, so we all get a smaller slice of the same cake. Actually, I even think the cake is getting smaller.
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