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Old 01-02-2007, 06:59 AM   #41
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Terrie, IIRC the spray routine also used to be recommended because it gave the toner (as opposed to inkjet) a little extra "feel", similar to the way that thermography-vs-flat has a little extra feel.

And, not all toner fuses into all paper the same way. The cheaper the stock, the more tooth, the better the fusing.<G>
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Old 01-03-2007, 12:40 PM   #42
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groucho: Terrie, IIRC the spray routine also used to be recommended because it gave the toner (as opposed to inkjet) a little extra "feel", similar to the way that thermography-vs-flat has a little extra feel.
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>>And, not all toner fuses into all paper the same way. The cheaper the stock, the more tooth, the better the fusing.<G>

LOL!!! And the buscard stock I'm using--Geopaper--isn't top of the line but it has a decent weight to it but I'm wondering if the reason I've not had problems with the toner disappearing is that the combo of the Geopaper and the HP6MP toner (HP cartridge) just happens to be a good match.

I rarely use my Epson 4000 to print business cards primarily because I don't have a paper profile for the Geopaper buscard stock and what I get with the generic paper profile is just ok...

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Old 01-03-2007, 12:41 PM   #43
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Ann...by the way...what inkjet printer did you finally decide on???

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Old 01-03-2007, 12:59 PM   #44
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Geopaper? I can't get the thought of "is that earthpaper or dirtpaper?" out of my mind.<G>

Then again, I just figured out last month that there is no word for "milk" in Spanish. I know, there's "leche" but that really goes back to "leachate". Shows you how the two cultures view things a bit differently.
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Geopaper? I can't get the thought of "is that earthpaper or dirtpaper?" out of my mind.<G>

Then again, I just figured out last month that there is no word for "milk" in Spanish. I know, there's "leche" but that really goes back to "leachate". Shows you how the two cultures view things a bit differently.
Groucho,

You might be over thinking this stuff. When I'm at a restaurant and I order "leche," I get milk -- in a glass or a carton.

I was buying a plate hanger today, and right beside me was --- yes, Krylon. I bought Low Oder Matte. There was also Gloss or Cystal Clear. I might return to that store Friday. I could take it back for an exchange, or who knows, maybe, I did Ok.

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George-
"You might be over thinking this stuff."
I might be. But when you learn the translations of a language, you get insights into the culture behind it, beyond the literal mistranslations that are so convenient. Yes, leche is milk. But then again, it also it very much*not*. You can't have "leachate" without knowing that it leached out from something, which then becomes bound to the product.
"Milk" is, I think, an objectified concept. Or at least removed further from where it comes from.

Syntax in Japanese runs the opposite of English. Translating "correctly" means reversing the syntax--but also removes the mindset. Which removes the entire flavor of a culture. Great for writing instruction manuals...lousy for literature.<G>

If you were translating ghetto rap into another manguage, would you translate "ho" as "lady" ? Of course not, by removing the culture you destroy the meaning. I sometimes find subtitles to be hilarious, because they often mangle things exactly that way.
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groucho: Geopaper? I can't get the thought of "is that earthpaper or dirtpaper?" out of my mind.<G>
LOL!!! It's a brand name and it does indeed contain recycled paper...it's nice stuff...been using their business card stock for many years...a lot less expensive and a lot nice than the Avery stock...

Their website isn't all that good but it will show you what they offer...

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If you were translating ghetto rap into another manguage, would you translate "ho" as "lady" ? Of course not, by removing the culture you destroy the meaning.
OTOH, there has been so much abuse to dynamic equivalent theory in the 20th century. I know what you mean, but I always look for the abuse now-a-days.

However, at times I sure do enjoy using the dynamic equivalent to the point of paraphrase, when it eliminates archaic and confusing idiom and style. It just depends on the subject matter and the controversies involved.

Usually, I'm quite literal equivalent, relying on commentary for the intricacies. But, I've stopped debating translation theory, as it never convinces anybody of anything. People believe what they want.

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It's a brand name and it does indeed contain recycled paper...it's nice stuff...been using their business card stock for many years...a lot less expensive and a lot nice than the Avery stock...
Nicer than Avery?? Gee, Terrie, I never even thought of using anything but Avery. They've been the standard for so long. Now, you've jolted my thinking again. The prices on the web site sure look good. Hmmm.

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