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Old 02-28-2005, 09:43 PM   #1
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When you quote a per-page price for book layout, do you subtract the blank pages from the final page count when you add up the bill?

We start new chapters on right-hand pages, so we usually end up with several blank left-hand pages. I've been subtracting them from the page count, but I recently talked to someone who said she never does.

Just curious to know how others handle it.

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Old 02-28-2005, 10:08 PM   #2
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When you quote a per-page price for book layout, do you subtract the blank pages from the final page count when you add up the bill?
I never did when I did technical documentation.

   
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Okay, that's another vote for not subtracting.

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When you quote a per-page price for book layout, do you subtract the blank pages from the final page count when you add up the bill?

We start new chapters on right-hand pages, so we usually end up with several blank left-hand pages. I've been subtracting them from the page count, but I recently talked to someone who said she never does.

Just curious to know how others handle it.

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In my work, I always subtract blank pages from the billable page count.
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Old 03-01-2005, 09:38 PM   #5
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Now it's even -- two for subtracting, two for not subtracting.

I need a tiebreaker. <g>

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Old 03-02-2005, 01:06 AM   #6
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Now it's even -- two for subtracting, two for not subtracting.

I need a tiebreaker. <g>

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I don't charge for blank pages.

   
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When you quote a per-page price for book layout, do you subtract the blank pages from the final page count when you add up the bill?
I just count the total number of pages in the pdf (whether they're blank or not). If there are blank pages at the end of the book I sometimes subtract those -- it depends on how many there are and how difficult it's been to meet the publisher's requires of filling a complete set of signatures.

The publisher I mostly work for always uses signatures of 32 pages and, when a book comes in at 300 pages it can be quite a lot of work to reduce it to 288 exactly.

   
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When you quote a per-page price for book layout, do you subtract the blank pages from the final page count when you add up the bill?
Depends on how they get to be blank.

If I had to move heaven and earth to shoe-horn the pages into a set number of printed pages, I go by the number of pages in the book. Otherwise I have to do a lot of work for nothing. Or bill by something other than pages.

Clients do not like to be billed for blank pages, however.

   
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I used to do books, and generally billed for the number of pages in the book. It was a 384 page book, with 21 pages front matter, they got a bill for 405 pages. If I recall, they were insisting on my having the blanks in the documents, so I was printing them blank proofs, and sometimes even having to work to make the running heads not appear (in the old PageMaker days with only one Master).

I would bill them until they complain. That said, I would not change over on an existing, regular client ... they would not appreciate the change. Perhaps if they don't use you for a year or so, the change could go through un-noticed.

If they complain, you can always back down.

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Old 03-02-2005, 08:57 PM   #10
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I decided to be nice to my client and continue not charging them for blank pages.

I hope they appreciate it.

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