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Old 08-23-2006, 03:41 PM   #1
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Default Kievit regular vis-a-vis medium vis-a-vis book

I confess that if I ever knew the differences between regular, medium and book weights of typefaces, I certainly don't remember now.

I am looking at Fontfont's Kievit, which is one of those gosh-durned typefaces you can't buy individually, you gotta buy in sets. Set 1 includes regular and medium (although it's hard to tell from the display, I'd probably use regular for text since it's lighter than the medium weight), but does not include a bold (only extra bold), so that ain't gonna work.

Set 2 includes bold (and black), but the lightest weight included is book (in Set 1).

My client has implied willingness to buy one set. If I buy Set 2, will the book weight work for text in magazines, brochures, catalogs, etc.?

It's hard to make a decision based on what I see onscreen, especially since I can only look at one font at a time. And I need to get fonts immediately (like tomorrow), so there's no time to request a printed catalog.

Also, the way I read it, Fontfont allows embedding fonts in a PDF.

http://www.fontfont.com/eula/license.html

Right?

Oh, and if anyone happens to have Kievit medium, regular, and/or book, and is willing to set some sample text in a PDF, I'd be forever grateful.

And fWIW, the client likes the font because of its resemblance to Whitney, which we can't afford.

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Old 08-23-2006, 04:33 PM   #2
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Marlene:
You can buy individual weights; they're $40 US each. E.g.: Kievit regular

Further:
Kievit is available as an Opentype, and FF has PDFs of it in that format:
Book
Regular.

Note that the OT versions are $59 US, not $40.

It seems that FontShop could make things a bit easier to find things on their site!

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Old 08-23-2006, 04:46 PM   #3
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John,

Good grief! You're right! How did I miss that??

Okay, that solves the problem of being stuck with "pre-grouped" fonts. Now do I want book, regular, or medium for my text?

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Old 08-23-2006, 04:55 PM   #4
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Marlene:
I've edited my post to give you PDF links. See above.
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Old 08-23-2006, 05:50 PM   #5
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John,

Excellent! Assuming the Type1 fonts will look the same as the OT versions, the PDFs will help with the decisionmaking process.

Just realized you're looking at the Fontshop site, and I'm looking at the Fontfont site. I didn't realize the font was available from several different vendors. Not all sell single weights, though -- Phil's Fonts doesn't.

Anyway, how did you find the PDFs? I want to show my client PDFs of the regular, italic, bold and bold italic. I don't want them complaining later than they don't like the italic ampersand or the bold question mark.

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Old 08-23-2006, 06:14 PM   #6
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Okay... I've never been to the FontFont site!

Looking at the FontFont site, once you've found and selected, for example, Kievit 1 OT, you'll notice a little "i" in a box beside the font name field below the scrolling font view. Clicking on the "i" brings up a new small window with links to the PDFs.
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Hmmm. When I click on the "i" all I get is a window with some general info about Kievit. No links to PDFs. Nothing clickable.

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Old 08-24-2006, 04:32 AM   #8
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Marlene:
Hmmm...are you looking at the OT versions?

The PDFs are only available for the OT versions: when I choose Kievit 1 OT, and then the "i" I get info, and below it, a list of PDF links. This is from the North American FontFont store.

Or go here for Kievit OT 1 and here for 2.

Links are on the right.

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John,

Okay, now I get it! The links are for Fontshop, though, not Fontfont.

I've just realized that I have Myriad OT Pro (I believe it was included with Creative Suite 2), which I have never used, which might work for this project. Now I have to figure out how to get at the OS figures -- I can't remember anything about using OT.

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Old 08-24-2006, 11:08 AM   #10
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In InDesign, just choose Oldstyle figures from the OpenType area of the flyout menu (Accessed from the little arrow on the right of the character palette.)

Or you can use a style, and chose Oldstyle in the OpenType panel in the style dialogue.
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