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Old 08-09-2006, 12:40 PM   #1
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Default Extensis Suitcase & font conflicts

I'm using Suitcase X1 (v11) on OS 10.4.7. I'll gladly supply more data if needed.

I have a problem while trying to re-activate a font (Helvetica). I had to disable my version in order to install a client's fonts to print his job. Once done, I've removed all of the temporary fonts and tried to re-activate my previous regular ones. It's not the first time I have this problem, but now I can't resolve it. Upon trying to activate a particular font, I have the message:

"There are fonts in the suitcase Helvetica that conflict with fonts in the System Fonts folder. To activate your fonts you must manage the System Fonts with the Manage System Fonts feature."

The joke is:
There is no Helvetica font available in the said Manage System Fonts feature
There is no Helvetica folder/file in my System folder, or anywhere else besides my designated FONTS folder (Spotlight confirmed this)
Suitcase doesn't show any conflicting Helvetica
The Override System Fonts preference is checked anyways, shouldn't that prevent this error message?

The system I'm working on was setup by the previous graphic designer. I'm no Mac expert, but I can perform much of the basic operations though.

I've spent a whole morning re-organizing fonts a month or two ago, I removed quite a few (but kept them in a separate folder in case I'd need it on a recurring job) and it was going fine...

Also, if you know some link(s) about font maintenance, or general information on fonts... I'l have a look into that.

Thanks a lot!

   
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Old 08-10-2006, 01:03 AM   #2
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Only two options that I can think of are to quit and then reopen Suitcase (maybe restart the machine would be better) or to quit Suitcase and trash its prefs file and font database -- that would, of course, mean loading all your fonts into Suitcase again so it might be better to wait and see if anyone has better ideas.

Just thought of one other idea: quit Suitcase and download and use Font Explorer (which is free at http://www.linotype.com/fontexplorerX ) for this job then revert to Suitcase after you've finished the Helvetica job.

Personally, I've given up using Suitcase in favour of FontExplorer which I find more reliable, faster and easier to use.

   
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Old 08-31-2006, 10:09 AM   #3
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Font conflicts can come from a wide variety sources, not only system fonts. Applications themselves can at times activate fonts and create conflicts. Since you've inherited this system from another designer, and don't know its history, I recommend spending a little time cleaning up the machine. We've created a Font Management in OS X Best Practices Guide that will help you identify the system fonts that are necessary, and how to know what you'll be able to remove or not. Please pickup a copy from the following location:
http://www.extensis.com/fmbpg

If you're still having issues, please don't hesitate to contact our free techincal support at http://www.extensis.com/support/ Our support reps are good at identifying the root cause of problems quickly.

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Old 09-02-2006, 07:21 AM   #4
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Default Suitcase for Windows

I see that Extensis has a Suitcase for Windows. Does anyone have any experience with it?

Windows users need font management, too, but I am not sure that I should pay $79 for it.
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Old 09-02-2006, 08:43 AM   #5
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I see that Extensis has a Suitcase for Windows. Does anyone have any experience with it?

Windows users need font management, too, but I am not sure that I should pay $79 for it.
Do you have font problems? Too many fonts in your software menus? Lose track of some fonts? Have the same typefaces in more than one format (PostScript Type 1, TrueType, OpenType)?

If not, don’t worry about it.

I have something like 4,000 fonts, and font management is crucial. But everyone may not need it.

   
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Old 09-02-2006, 12:00 PM   #6
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Default 169 Ttf

I have 169 TTF fonts in windows/fonts. I might have $25 for font management, but certainly not $80 worth.

Why am I not surprised that you have over four thousand fonts?
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Old 09-05-2006, 09:48 AM   #7
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The benefits of font management on Windows are much the same as they are on Mac OS X.

1. Minimizing the length of your font lists within design programs
2. Activating only the font that you need, when you need it
3. Previewing multiple fonts, side-by-side before activation

These are only a few of the benefits. I recommend downloading the trial version of the software before purchasing.
http://www.extensis.com/en/products/...on.jsp?id=1054
This way, you'll be able to see how it can help in your design workflow.

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Old 09-06-2006, 06:30 PM   #8
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The main reason I started using font management in Windows was that I started having problems with Windows simply not recognizing fonts that were installed in the Windows/Fonts folder. I soon found out that there really is a maximum that Windows can manage and it's only a few hundred. After trying a few font managers I decided to get Suitcase simply because it's so simple to use and quite prevalent - I figure I can count on it being around for updates in the future as well as decent support, if I were to need it.

With the unnecessarily complex way that OSX handles fonts, a font manager should come preinstalled on Macs - so we went with Suitcase Fusion on those machines.

However, if you're on a budget, I really liked High Logic Main Type. It has many more features than Suitcase and is only $40. It's also only for Windows. http://www.high-logic.com/maintype.html
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Old 08-14-2009, 01:45 PM   #9
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Default Font Cache causing conflicts with helvetic

I have this problem alot because I am constantly using different Helveticas.
The solution I use is to delete my font cache. This requires a restart but works all the time.
I use FontFinagler (shareware) to delete the cache (on my Mac Os 10.4.11). Some font management apps also have features that will delete the font cache. I'm not sure if the latest version of Suitcase has this feature, but do that if you can.
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I'm using Suitcase X1 (v11) on OS 10.4.7. I'll gladly supply more data if needed.

I have a problem while trying to re-activate a font (Helvetica). I had to disable my version in order to install a client's fonts to print his job. Once done, I've removed all of the temporary fonts and tried to re-activate my previous regular ones. It's not the first time I have this problem, but now I can't resolve it. Upon trying to activate a particular font, I have the message:

"There are fonts in the suitcase Helvetica that conflict with fonts in the System Fonts folder. To activate your fonts you must manage the System Fonts with the Manage System Fonts feature."

The joke is:
There is no Helvetica font available in the said Manage System Fonts feature
There is no Helvetica folder/file in my System folder, or anywhere else besides my designated FONTS folder (Spotlight confirmed this)
Suitcase doesn't show any conflicting Helvetica
The Override System Fonts preference is checked anyways, shouldn't that prevent this error message?

The system I'm working on was setup by the previous graphic designer. I'm no Mac expert, but I can perform much of the basic operations though.

I've spent a whole morning re-organizing fonts a month or two ago, I removed quite a few (but kept them in a separate folder in case I'd need it on a recurring job) and it was going fine...

Also, if you know some link(s) about font maintenance, or general information on fonts... I'l have a look into that.

Thanks a lot!
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Old 08-14-2009, 02:04 PM   #10
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I see that Extensis has a Suitcase for Windows. Does anyone have any experience with it?
Belatedly, since I see you wrote that three years ago, I might say that I have used Suitcase for Windows since early last year. I've got just a bit short of 2000 fonts, and it manages quite satisfactorily. At the moment 288 of them are in the Windows\Fonts folder, but that's because I've just installed Office 14* (Techanical Review) and haven't sorted out the system fonts; usually there are about 70 system fonts, most of them for oriental scripts .

   
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