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Old 06-01-2006, 03:37 PM   #1
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The July 2006 issue of Maximum PC has an article on running Windows XP on one of the new Intel Macs.

The hardware was the Intel-based iMac with and Intel Core Duo CPU running at 1.83GHz with 1GB of DDR2/667 RAM with 160GB Seagate 7200.7 drive, an ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 graphics card and OSX version 10.4.5 "...flashed the firmware to support Boot Camp."

"For performance testing, we picked applications that had been updated on the Intel Macs to run native x86 code in Universal Mode, and that were also compatible with Windows XP....Doom3, Bibble Pro4.7 and a beta version of Noise Ninja"

"Additionally, we wanted to see how much of a performance drag Mac users suffer when running the emulation layer required by many older PowerPC-native applications. For this, we ran Photoshop CS2 which has not been updated to run in Universal Mode."

"Finally, we fired up a beta verson of Parallels Workstation and created a virtual install of Windows XP. Parallels is like VM Ware Workstation and Virtual PC 2005 except it supports Intel's new Virtualization Technology (VT) in OS X."


The Verdict?

"The Mac runs Windows XP better than it runs OS X...On Mac hardware, apps run significantly faster in Windows XP than they do in OS X."

"Our tests also put to rest a belief that running Windows XP within OS X using Parallels virtualization software is faster than running Windows XP directly on the hardware. It's not."

(Source: Maximum PC, July 2006, pages 49-50)


Pretty interesting isn't it?

Mac version of Photoshop CS2 ran 63.22% slower than the Windows XP version...

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Pretty interesting isn't it?

Mac version of Photoshop CS2 ran 63.22% slower than the Windows XP version...

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Because Adobe hasn't released a Universal Binary version of Photoshop, it's running under Rosetta emulation. No surprise that it's running slower, and no reflection on the Mac or OS X. Any attempt to draw a different conclusion is disingenuous at best.

Even before the Intel Macs shippped, everyone knew the Adobe apps were goping to run like pigs in muck, even Adobe.

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djb: Because Adobe hasn't released a Universal Binary version of Photoshop, it's running under Rosetta emulation. No surprise that it's running slower, and no reflection on the Mac or OS X.
I didn't quote what they had to say when they went looking for an explanation--the result suprised them also--so here it is:

"Apps ran much faster in XP--even Universal apps that are optimized for Intel Macs. Puzzled, we question one of the programmers of an app we tested. He said that while most of the code was optimized for Intel Macs, the third-party color-management app still needed to be optimized by Apple...The real problem for Apple and Mac users is how long it will take for those optimizations to arrive. When we tested Photoshop CS2 on both platforms, the Windows XP version decimated the OS X version, which runs in emulated mode. Emulation is slow, that's not big surprise. But when you consider that Adobe won't have an x86-native version of Photoshop for the Mac until sometime next year, you can begin to see the problem." (source: Maximum PC, July 2006, page 50)

The other apps they tested (Noise Ninja, Bibble Pro 4.7 and Doom 3--Maximum PC is very big on gaming), came in a bit over 20% slower on the OS X side.


>>Any attempt to draw a different conclusion is disingenuous at best.

My take on the article wasn't that it was a slam against Apple--the article said "We give Applie credit for thinking outside the box...Apple's switch to x86 and its support for windows XP is a tectonic shift that could portent big changes for the PC world"--and that's my take on it. I think it's both exciting and cool that their test proved that XP is workable on a Mac as I think it will provide me, as a pc user, with more options in the future...

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