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Old 01-12-2016, 10:32 AM   #1
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I stumbled onto Windows Sysinternals, and after staring at it for awhile I think this is something I used to know about. Or, at least, I have a memory of Process Explorer. We might have even discussed it here back in Csi days.

Anyway, I ran Process Explorer. It has a way to submit the running process files to https://www.virustotal.com, and display the results within the interface. I think it also allows you to launch to online removal tools, but I didn't try that. This feature will not find rootkits, files that are not running, and even some that are. For example, I had several instances where it could not find the file behind the process. But still, fun to have. It even showed my favorite gadfly, GWX.exe, which keeps throwing Windows 10 upgrade ads at me. I guess I could rename the file, but in the same folder is GWXDetector.exe, which might pounce on me if I try ;-).

   
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Old 01-12-2016, 12:38 PM   #2
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I know about Sysinternals but I've never used it...

With respect to GWX crapola, you might want to take a browse through the following:

1. GWX Control Panel - a utility to get rid of GWX


2. How to remove Win10 upgrade updates from Win7/8


3. Win7 updates to avoid --dslreports.com thread which is a bit long but interesting

4. InfoWorld article on blocking the Win10 update crap



I have turned off Windows Update completely on my Win7 system--in addition to setting "Windows Update" to "never check, I've also set the Windows Update Service to "disabled"...


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Old 01-12-2016, 02:22 PM   #3
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I just found another article on the persistence of GWX at The Register:

"The other possibility is that the aggressive GWX program is mutating, and may be close to achieving sentience. GWX already fulfils many of the characteristics of an aggressive malware. Stylistically, the pop-up appears to be modelled after the nasties found on pirate media and porn sites – a pretty classy touch from Microsoft."



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Old 01-13-2016, 06:25 AM   #4
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This looks useful:

http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/w...to-remove.html

Mark Russinovich, the guy who wrote (and as near as I can tell, continues to maintain) the Sysinternals stuff now that MS owns it also helped to out Sony and their nasty rootkit crap and wrote a removal tool for that. I wonder if it's generic to other rootkits?

   
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Old 01-13-2016, 02:38 PM   #5
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Thanks for that link! I love this part:

"And the end result is very simple. It does not matter if Windows 10 free upgrade is good or not. It does not matter if Microsoft has benevolent intentions. The moment you push me into a corner, you corporate pieces of crap, I will fight back with all I can, and you have just turned a loyal owner - and a shareholder - into an enemy. You have made me into a detractor. You have obliterated all and any chance of me ever wanting to even consider upgrading my Windows 7/8 boxes to the new version. You morons.

Now, we will have a tutorial explaining how you can disable this diarrhea, and get back control over your system."



I will be going back to browse around his site--particularly to look and see if he might have updated that June 2015 post. I also should spend some time looking at Sysinternals because as I mentioned I know of it but don't really have a sense of what it offers...


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Old 01-13-2016, 06:06 PM   #6
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Try GWX Control Panel and live in peace ..... It is updated to keep up with anything Microsoft may change ....

And it is a control so that you can suspend the risk of actions behind your back but later on let them happen. You can stop the download of the upgrade files or allow them but not have them run and you can clean out totally so that if later you want to upgrade you will have to download the ISO and do a clean upgrade ..... Or buy Windows 10 if you delay until after the free date.....

   
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hugh: It is updated to keep up with anything Microsoft may change
Yes, as I hsf noted in my reply to Andrew and apparently Microsoft is now changing things at least 2x/day via some "update" that was recently released...ugh!

I don't have a problem personally because as I also noted, Windows Updates and Windows Update Service are never check/disabled on all my systems and on 2 of my sisters' systems. I was very paranoid with my newly built system and did not plug in an ethernet cable until after I had double-checked that Windows Update was set to "never check" and I had set Windows Update Service to "disabled".


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I was very paranoid with my newly built system and did not plug in an ethernet cable until after I had double-checked that Windows Update was set to "never check" and I had set Windows Update Service to "disabled".
If you can trust them not to go outside those "for your own good"?

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Microsoft announced today that the ‘Get Windows 10’ app that consumers have had on their machines to make it easier to upgrade to the new OS is coming to small business and other small organizations. The company says they have received requests from customers of these smaller organizations to be able to use “Get Windows 10” app on their machines but currently the app will not run on devices that are joined to an Active Directory domain.
from Thurrott just now .....

   
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hugh: If you can trust them not to go outside those "for your own good"?
Microsoft is doing that in other areas of systems but so far, disabling the Windows Update Service itself seems to have done the trick. Whether that holds in the future, we will have to see...

Those AD users should consider themselves very lucky not to be aggressively pushedto Windows 10 and I strongly doubt Microsoft's statement that anyone on in an AD environment wants Windows 10...


Later Edit: The Register article on this latest action by Microsoft has very interesting comments...


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Old 01-14-2016, 05:45 PM   #10
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Going back to your earlier post

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Windows Update was set to "never check" and I had set Windows Update Service to "disabled".
Surely you are throwing out the baby with the bathwater if you never check and never apply updates? I have mine set to Check and advise but never to apply unless I tell it to and I've not had any problems; I usually wait a short while and check online for reported problems but some of the updates really do fix dangerous situations.

I had read the Register article earlier.

   
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