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Old 07-25-2005, 02:52 PM   #1
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Default Fluid Mask cutout tool

Fluid Mask is a new cutout plugin from Vertus. The Mac version is out, and the PC version is on the way. I have a PC, so there is no way for me to test it now. But I took a look at the tutorial movies to get a feel of what it can do. It appears to be much more powerful and flexible than Photoshop's Extract tool. Of course,the PS extract tool is not exactly the acme of extraction power, and looking at tutorial movies is not the best way to judge. I'd have to put it head to head with Corel KnockOut to really decide. But I'm not sure I will ever do that. So consider this a heads-up about a new plugin that you might want to test, if you spend a lot of time doing extractions.

The introductory price is $399, with free upgrades for 6 months. The full price is $499. Compare to Corel KnockOut for $99. But many people find KnockOut very tedious to us. So as with all other tools, it comes down to whether the time/money/aggravation saved is worth the cost.

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*Very* interesting...a bit pricey though...

I wish Corel would update KnockOUt...

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I wish Corel would update KnockOut...
Not sure what will happen. I remember when the KnockOut project manager asked the KnockOut group about what people would like in an upgrade. Everyone responded by complaining about the existing bugs. I tried to offer some feature suggestions, primarily a way to make it simpler to draw the inside and outside lines. But I never got any kind of acknowledgement that my post was even read. And I never saw him post there again.
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>>andrewb: But I never got any kind of acknowledgement that my post was even read. And I never saw him post there again.

Bummer...

FluidMask is as pricey as MaskPro if I'm remembering correctly...

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Mask Pro 3 is $199. I tried it right after it came out, and I could not warm up to it.

Funny thing. Some of what I see in the Fluid Mask interface reminds me of Mask Pro, and at first I wondered if it shared the same engine. Watching the tutorials, I don't think so. But I'll probably try it and find out.
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>>andrewb: Mask Pro 3 is $199. I tried it right after it came out, and I could not warm up to it.

I never warmed up to it either...I'm pretty sure when I was first checking out the various masking software available, Mask-Pro was in the high $300's and I think that when KnockOut came out, Mask-Pro dropped it's price...


>>Funny thing. Some of what I see in the Fluid Mask interface reminds me of Mask Pro, and at first I wondered if it shared the same engine. Watching the tutorials, I don't think so. But I'll probably try it and find out.

I thought the same thing...'-}}

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I'm not even sure I need a cut-out tool these days. I'm never in a hurry, and I don't mind hand-drawing edges on a layer mask. The thing layer masks don't do, though, is create partially transparent edge that contains only the color from the part to be kept. Of course, one can build such an edge using native tools, but Knock-Out does this for us. I wonder if Fluid Mask knows how to do this.
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>>andrewb: The thing layer masks don't do, though, is create partially transparent edge that contains only the color from the part to be kept.

You can (kinda...if you're handy) do this by tweaking the black/white/grey color when painting on the mask...I've done it--although it was really more of an accident that I discovered this...basically, shades of grey provide the degree of transparency...

>> Of course, one can build such an edge using native tools, but Knock-Out does this for us.

Exactly...

>>I wonder if Fluid Mask knows how to do this.

It would *have* to...what's the real point of using it if it didn't...

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You can (kinda...if you're handy) do this by tweaking the black/white/grey color when painting on the mask...I've done it--although it was really more of an accident that I discovered this...Basically, shades of grey provide the degree of transparency...
Yes, if you mask deeply to get past the edge color, and then have a partially transparent mask. But it won't leach one color from the original transition area. KnockOut will.
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>>andrewb: But it won't leach one color from the original transition area. KnockOut will.

True...

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