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Old 07-20-2005, 05:14 AM   #1
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OK, so we have this posh client who insists on submitting his CD artwork in Nero, and we have to get it into Press PDFs to fit our printer's templates rather than Nero's. That means the colour has to be CMYK rather than RGB, and the booklet has to be in printers pairs, which Nero won't do. What's the best way?

Nero won't let me copy then paste into another application of course, nor save as anything else, so I print to a temporary PDF, save as a tiff from Acrobat, convert to CMYK in Photoshop, import into Quark or InDesign to make printers pairs, then create the Press PDF. Takes a while, and I lose the vectors.

I have ten jobs to do like this, so all suggestions welcome!

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Have you tried saving as an eps or ps from Acrobat and importing using the PostScript Interpreted filter in CorelDraw? If that will work (about 50/50 here) you can save the vectors and export in a better format from Draw.

   
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Touble is I don't think I can convert an eps to CMYK in Draw (unless you know how to do it!)
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Touble is I don't think I can convert an eps to CMYK in Draw (unless you know how to do it!)
I would think that PostScript Interepted would retain vectors and they would be RGB, so the more I think about it, it would be a PITA to change each color to CMYK. I would think a Photoshop might be a better plan to convert the eps to CMYK.

I would also try to pursuade the client to supply artwork in a manner you support. If not through conversation, then through the invoice. Sounds like a fun time ahead for you!

   
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Old 07-20-2005, 09:55 AM   #5
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Nero won't let me copy then paste into another application of course, nor save as anything else, so I print to a temporary PDF...
Once you've created the PDF there are a number of applications that let you do what you need-- QuiteImposing comes to mind. You shouldn't need to bring full pages into Photoshop to accomplish what you need.
Try looking here

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Old 07-20-2005, 01:12 PM   #6
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Um, $630 is ten times more than I can justify spending for one client. And I need to convert the PDF from RGB to CMYK.
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Doesn't Acrobat 7.x convert RGB to CYMK?
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Yes but there's lots of blue in the artwork, so I want to see the the conversion comes out (and, if necessary, tweak the colour balance) before I send the file to the printer.
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Um, $630 is ten times more than I can justify spending for one client. And I need to convert the PDF from RGB to CMYK.
Well $630 is for the plus version--the regular version is only 5 times more than you can justify spending for one client<G>

However, my main point was that you should be able to do the things you need to do while the file is a pdf--without rasterizing it in PShop, importing the raster images into a page layout app, then creating a new pdf of the whole mess.

Maybe Peter or David B know of some less-expensive pdf prepress tools that'll do what you want.

   
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OH yes ... InDy can convert the job to CMYK on the way
back out to final PDF.
It could also do that conversion and your trapping
if you want to write PostScript then Distill.

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