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Old 03-15-2016, 10:31 PM   #1
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Default Windows 10 whether you want it or not...

Microsoft's aggressive push of Windows 10 is getting worse. According to a March 15 Computerworld article describing how Windows 10 is being forcibly installed when users have left their system unattended--one system began the Windows 10 install while the user was in the shower. Other users describe choosing the "decline" option only to have their systems going into a loop--endlessly.

The following comment from Microsoft appears to belie any idea that Microsoft has any conception of reality and supports the notion that Microsoft appears to be living in a fantasy world--or perhaps Orwellian might be a better description:

"[As] we shared in late October on the Windows Blog, we are committed to making it easy for our Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 customers to upgrade to Windows 10," the spokesman said. "As stated in that post, we have updated the upgrade experience to make it easier for customers to schedule a time for their upgrade to take place."



I'm so glad I've set Windows Update to "never", along with setting Windows Update Service to "disabled" and using gpedit to set "Prevent Windows Anytime Update" to "enabled"--it's been reported that people are finding their Windows Update settings changed to allow Windows 10 to download and install. I'm giving serious consideration to unplugging my ethernet cable when I'm not actively using my system...


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Old 03-16-2016, 03:00 AM   #2
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An Orwellian fantasy world no less...

Glad I don't have to deal with that.

   
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Old 03-16-2016, 01:37 PM   #3
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bo: An Orwellian fantasy world no less...
When I typed that I wasn't thinking "Orwellian" and "fantasy" but just "Orwellian". These statements from Microsoft--"making it easy... to upgrade" and "easier for customers to schedule a time for their upgrade to take place"--elide the reality that there are Windows users who have no interest in Windows 10 no matter how "easy" Microsoft makes it. Just because Microsoft repeats itself ad nauseam will not make me believe that war is peas...'-}}


But...on second thought, perhaps "Orwellian fantasy" is not too far from the mark...


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Old 03-17-2016, 08:14 AM   #4
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Or maybe "Orwellian. For real this time. No fantasies here."

   
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Truer and truer every day...


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Happened to me - sat down after lunch with DTP client on Friday - woke computer up and Windows 10 had installed over Windows 7, even though I declined the nag screens. The rollback only took about 10 mins TG, though my backup s/w has recopied everything so some system variable has presumably changed.

I immediately changed Windows update to ask me whether to download. Today, when I checked in cpanel, Windows 10 had gone from a failed installation to one waiting to happen - and when I looked at the details, it was pre-ticked for action though I hadn't touched it.

I have now hidden it and will wait to see what happens.

M$ have really lost my trust over this.
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Old 03-16-2016, 04:14 PM   #7
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I immediately changed Windows update to ask me whether to download. Today, when I checked in cpanel, Windows 10 had gone from a failed installation to one waiting to happen - and when I looked at the details, it was pre-ticked for action though I hadn't touched it.

I have now hidden it and will wait to see what happens.
As I've posted before all that and hiding won't prevent bad things happening since it's known that the hidden unchecked optional update that triggers the upgrade can be changed by Microsoft behind your back to Important, unhidden and prechecked to happen so you need to know what to look for.

As I've said, I prefer the nontechnical route of installing the free GWX Control Utility and letting it block since it and its programmer know much more than I do, keep uptodate and update the utility as things change.

   
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>> I prefer the nontechnical route of installing the free GWX Control Utility

Amen to that. And thanks again for bringing it up.

Small download, fast install, a few clicks and you're done. SO much simpler than the alternative. [Note to self: send the GWX guy a PayPal contribution; he's earned it.]

   
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I want to find out if GWX Control automatically blocks all user desktop setups on one single setting.

I presumed it would but the other day Dottie reported a problem with something blocking a video on her desktop that I could get on mine and when I went to check her desktop with IE open a noticed a second TAB open that said something about the latest version of IE (which we have had or some time) and that page had a big blue MS Flagavert for upgrading to Windows 10 ....

That may not have stopped the video from appearing where it should on her webpage but a thorough log out for both of us and a Restart did seem to.

   
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My understanding from the GWX web page was that installing using the provided installer would make it available to all user logins, whereas using the downloadable EXE would not.

That doesn't really speak to whether running the installed app would affect all desktops, but the results of allowing MS to forcefeed the install into one user's login but not another's would be One Win10 To Rule Them All at best. Or an ungodly mess.

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Ah. This from the Ultimate Outsider GWX blog:

"Doesn't (yet) prevent the Windows 10 advertisements that Microsoft displays in web browsers. At first I thought it was unique to Internet Explorer, but now it appears that the ads are tied to specific Microsoft sites (most notably MSN.com) rather than Internet Explorer itself. I am currently investigating whether there's a safe way to stop this. (But for now if you don't want to see those ads, just don't go to MSN.com or other Microsoft sites that display them.) There are examples of these specific in-browser ads at the troubleshooting guide."

http://blog.ultimateoutsider.com/201...ly-remove.html

   
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