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Old 07-20-2005, 12:27 AM   #1
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Is it (still) the perceived wisdom that it's better to re-create than convert?

If so, what kind of problems were people having converting?

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Old 07-20-2005, 04:23 AM   #2
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I've had success somewhere in between: converting, getting rid of unnecessary stuff, then selecting everything and copying and pasting it into a new InDesign document.

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I've had success somewhere in between: converting, getting rid of unnecessary stuff, then selecting everything and copying and pasting it into a new InDesign document.

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Shane,

Thanks for that. But what sort of "unnecessary stuff" were you getting rid of?

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Thanks for that. But what sort of "unnecessary stuff" were you getting rid of?
Things like unused colors and styles.

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FWIW, I've got a large number of Quark documents that I am converting to InDesign, and so far it's been working really well. These are very small documents (1 to 6 pages long), and not terribly complicated.

All I've had to do is adjust the imported photos (they don't quite fit their frames after the conversion -- I get a thin white area, maybe a point or two wide, on two edges of the photo, which is in a blue frame) and fiddle with the text tables, which do not convert very well. They are no longer tables when they get to InDesign. But this has not been a major problem -- I usually only have to make minor adjustments in the depth -- for some reason I end up with extra empty space at the bottom of the table.

If I have to make major changes in a table (at the client's request), then I usually do the table all over from scratch in InDesign.

And some of the lines/pages break differently in InDesign, although usually not.

But checking and fixing these things has taken much less time than doing the documents over from scratch.

These are the only documents I've converted, though (except for the odd PageMaker files that I receive now and then -- I don't have PM so I have to open them in ID), and they really are simple documents.

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Old 07-21-2005, 01:07 AM   #6
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Marlene (and everyone else!),

Thanks for all that. Sounds like I should try it. We've got a new four-colour 96 page Quark project with minor revisions, so we'll try it on that. I'll let you know how we get on!

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Hello!

Is it (still) the perceived wisdom that it's better to re-create than convert?

If so, what kind of problems were people having converting?

Best wishes, Adrian
I converted to InDesign so long ago that my XPress files were still in 3.32r5. The only problems I experienced were that InDesign complained about a few needing to be opened in XPress and re-saved before it would convert them. Once I did that, they all came across beautifully.

They ranged in size from singe page flyers to 32 page magazines.

   
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That reminds me, InDesign can't open Quark files newer than version 4.

So I have to backsave my version 6.5 files as version 5, shut down Quark 6.5, launch Quark 5, open the files and backsave again as version 4.

That IS a PITA, but no way around it AFAIK.

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That reminds me, InDesign can't open Quark files newer than version 4.

So I have to backsave my version 6.5 files as version 5, shut down Quark 6.5, launch Quark 5, open the files and backsave again as version 4.

That IS a PITA, but no way around it AFAIK.

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Yeah - they introduced some sort of encryption in versiion 5 of XPress, didn't they?

I never upgraded to version 4 because the Australian agent wanted $1,000 for it. Then InDesign came out so I had an alternative.

   
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Is it (still) the perceived wisdom that it's better to re-create than convert?

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Best wishes, Adrian
I've only done it once. Last month a publisher sent me a novel set in XPress. I opened it up in InDesign CS1. Deleted a bunch of obviously unused paragraph styles, changed the page and margin sizes, moved the author's bio and photo from the back page to the front page, sorted out the pagination and fitted it to the required 128 pages and sent it off for proofreading. The proofreader found 2 spelling errors (in the original) and there are a few changes to make to the imprint page. I'll do those and send it off for printing tomorrow.

Goodness, I wish all jobs were as simple as that.

   
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