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Old 12-29-2013, 07:20 AM   #1
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Default How to make an image non-printing in Publisher

I have some pre-printed stationery and envelopes. I've attached an image of one of the envelopes.

I want to create a template that shows the actual image, so I can create text boxes that flow around the pre-printed images, but won't print the image.

I tried this in Word, but, of course, it is not anywhere close to a desktop publishing program. I tried it in Publisher, but I cannot figure out a way to make the image non-printing.

I can make any object non-printing in Visio, but, again, it is not a desktop publishing application. It has no capability for flowing text around an object.

Can anyone tell me how to do this in Publisher (2007)?

If this is not possible, which is what I think is the case, can someone recommend a real desktop publishing program that can do this? I'd prefer to keep the cost to around $50, but would be willing to spend more for a really great program. By "really great", I mostly mean easy to use. I won't be publishing any books or brochures. I mostly need it for Christmas letters to the grandkids.

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PS: I'm new here. Please let me know if this is not the right place to post this.

   
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Old 12-29-2013, 07:44 AM   #2
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My "Steve, The Simpleminded" solution would be to design the piece with the image in place then save it, then delete the image before printing, assuming that that doesn't mess up the text flow, which is probably a bad assumption.

Or design the piece with the image in place, then before printing, add another shape the same color as the background, with no outline, big enough to cover the image, then send it backward until it covers the image but nothing that sits atop the image (ie, the text).

That gets problematic if your background's not a solid color; there's no Background fill option for shapes as there is in some other Office programs.

You could also insert a Freeform shape, create it so that it follows the outline of the part of the picture you want text to wrap around, then have the text wrap around the freeform rather than the picture (which you'd delete). Finally, when ready to print, give the freeform no fill, no outline ... iow, make it invisible.

   
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Old 12-29-2013, 08:05 AM   #3
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My "Steve, The Simpleminded" solution would be to design the piece with the image in place then save it, then delete the image before printing, assuming that that doesn't mess up the text flow, which is probably a bad assumption.

Or design the piece with the image in place, then before printing, add another shape the same color as the background, with no outline, big enough to cover the image, then send it backward until it covers the image but nothing that sits atop the image (ie, the text).

That gets problematic if your background's not a solid color; there's no Background fill option for shapes as there is in some other Office programs.

You could also insert a Freeform shape, create it so that it follows the outline of the part of the picture you want text to wrap around, then have the text wrap around the freeform rather than the picture (which you'd delete). Finally, when ready to print, give the freeform no fill, no outline ... iow, make it invisible.
Are you saying that Publisher cannot make an image non-printing?

Do you know of a program that can?

There are a lot of work-arounds, but I would like to see if there is a program, Publisher or something else, that can do it right.

   
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Old 12-29-2013, 09:28 AM   #4
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Are you saying that Publisher cannot make an image non-printing?

Do you know of a program that can?

There are a lot of work-arounds, but I would like to see if there is a program, Publisher or something else, that can do it right.
I don't know enough about Publisher to know if you can do what you want, although if it can do layers, you can probably set a layer to be non-printing.

Serif Page Plus (http://www.serif.com/pageplus/) does do layers, and you can set a layer to be non-printing. At $75 the full version is a bit more expensive than you wanted to spend, but they have a free version. It might be worth seeing whether it can do this (and has the other features you need.)
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I don't know enough about Publisher to know if you can do what you want, although if it can do layers, you can probably set a layer to be non-printing.

Serif Page Plus (http://www.serif.com/pageplus/) does do layers, and you can set a layer to be non-printing. At $75 the full version is a bit more expensive than you wanted to spend, but they have a free version. It might be worth seeing whether it can do this (and has the other features you need.)
Apparently no one knows anything about Publisher.

Do you use Page Plus?

   
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Apparently no one knows anything about Publisher.

Do you use Page Plus?
I don't do DTP, so it's never been an issue for me. I just need to know what's available...
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Default Set the color to "White"

Old word processing trick. Set the color of the image to "white" and it will not print, since that's zero-zero-zero-zero in any color system, unless you've got a fancy printer with white inks. Surely there's a way to do that in Publisher?
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I'm not all that familiar with it; just had a quick look to see if I could figure something out. PowerPoint can make shapes visible or not (I couldn't find anything similar for Publisher) but PPT doesn't do text wrapping around images. People sometimes do the text wrap in Word, then copy/paste into PPT, but that strikes me as an even clumsier/workier workaround than my suggestions for Pub.

CorelDRAW can do pretty much any of this stuff. It can easily do multiple pages per file, though as a graphics/illustration program rather than true DTP, it's not the best choice for documents that require text flow from page to page.

Another trick, if you're dealing with pictures, is to insert the picture as a link, then substitute a different image for the linked image later (ie, substitute a plain blank that matches the background).

   
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Welcome to the forum!

I know absolutely zilch about MS Publisher, so please excuse me if my reply seems dumb or obviously wrong.

Does Publisher have layers? Can you turn the layers on and off? If so, and if you haven't already tried this, you could put your template image on one layer and your text on another layer, then turn off/hide the template layer before printing. It occurs to me that one possible gotcha with this idea is that the text might rewrap if you move the template to a different layer. If that is indeed the case, you might try--if such a thing is possible--rasterizing the text (convert it to a high resolution image) prior to moving the template to a different layer.

Steve's suggestion of making a white or transparent template object to wrap your text around is a good one, and is something I've done in other programs. (Though ISTR that one of those other programs would refuse to wrap text around transparent or white objects...)

Let us know how you make out. There's more than one way to skin a cat, and we should be able to come up with a solution.

   
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Welcome to the forum!

I know absolutely zilch about MS Publisher, so please excuse me if my reply seems dumb or obviously wrong.

Does Publisher have layers? Can you turn the layers on and off? If so, and if you haven't already tried this, you could put your template image on one layer and your text on another layer, then turn off/hide the template layer before printing. It occurs to me that one possible gotcha with this idea is that the text might rewrap if you move the template to a different layer. If that is indeed the case, you might try--if such a thing is possible--rasterizing the text (convert it to a high resolution image) prior to moving the template to a different layer.

Steve's suggestion of making a white or transparent template object to wrap your text around is a good one, and is something I've done in other programs. (Though ISTR that one of those other programs would refuse to wrap text around transparent or white objects...)

Let us know how you make out. There's more than one way to skin a cat, and we should be able to come up with a solution.
Well, I only know a little more than Zilch about Publisher. That's why I'm asking questions.

And I can't find a forum devoted to it, even on the Microsoft website, so I'm guessing no one is using it.

As far as I know, it does not have layers. It does have a background, but it seems that it is only for a kind of fill.

At this point, I am not looking for a work around. I can do that with Word or Visio. I'm looking for the right solution, either in Publisher or in something else.

   
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