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Old 06-09-2005, 12:06 PM   #1
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Default You think fonts are tricky today?

Here is a lovely article on setting metal type by hand that will make you feel grateful for your digital type: “How big is a font?”

   
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Here is a lovely article on setting metal type by hand that will make you feel grateful for your digital type: “How big is a font?”
Thanks for the link. It gives a whole new meaning to 'selecting a font'.

   
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I wonder how many people here realize that the term "out of sorts" for a person who is upset comes from type lingo. You can imagine how a typesetter dealing with hand type felt when he got down to near the end of the page, and found that there were no more of one of the letters he needed. He became "out of sorts" while he waited until another page was broken up and resorted to give him what he needed.
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… the term "out of sorts" for a person who is upset comes from type lingo. …
Or that “mind your ps and qs” refers to the great possibility that a compositor could confuse these two characters when setting type upside down and backwards!

   
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Or that “mind your ps and qs” refers to the great possibility that a compositor could confuse these two characters when setting type upside down and backwards!
I've heard that one explained differently though. Publicans would run a tab (hmm, short for "table"?) with rows = customers and one column each for Pints and Quarts, headed P and Q.

Customers who overindulged or were tardy in paying up were warned to "mind your Ps and Qs"

AAMOF, I first heard this down the road a bit from you in Mystic a long, long, long time ago.

   
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Old 06-12-2005, 08:26 AM   #6
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I've heard that one explained differently though. Publicans would run a tab (hmm, short for "table"?) with rows = customers and one column each for Pints and Quarts, headed P and Q.

Customers who overindulged or were tardy in paying up were warned to "mind your Ps and Qs"

AAMOF, I first heard this down the road a bit from you in Mystic a long, long, long time ago.
Oh, Mystic! That explains everything! <g>

The printer association is pretty well established (and the thing depends on using lowercase characters). But there is always room for one more.

   
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The printer association is pretty well established

I've heard (or read) the story slightly differently: it was the apprentices that had to mind their ps and qs when they were breaking down type and replacing it in the case. The compositors, who were experienced, wouldn't have mistaken a p for a q.

   
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… it was the apprentices that had to mind their ps and qs when they were breaking down type and replacing it in the case. The compositors, who were experienced, wouldn't have mistaken a p for a q.
Perhaps so.

But it was printing (not barmanship) that was the origin of the adage. No?

   
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But it was printing (not barmanship) that was the origin of the adage

Oh, of course it was!

   
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"room for one more"

Or bunches:

http://www.yaelf.com/aueFAQ/mifmindyourpsandqs.shtml

   
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