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Old 07-23-2011, 12:09 PM   #1
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Default Is there such a fax machine?

I have had to fax dozens of pages recently and am being driven to distraction by my two old fax machines, one a flat-bed from Xerox, the other a pass-through print/fax machine from H-P. The H-P is the newer, only about 10 years old; the Xerox is closer to 20.

I keep them both around because sometimes I need to fax out of a book and use the flatbed (usually just make a copy there), but it is out of toner (or whatever it uses — looks like carbon strips), and the refills cost hundreds of $$$. The machine also takes up a lot of space.

The H-P no longer feeds originals reliably. Sometimes it resists altogether and prints one sheet and leaves the rest of the stack in the feeder. But when it is really bad, feeds unevenly and the recipient gets a patchwork mess.

I remember sheets of fuzzy stuff I could run through a document feeder to clean feed rollers, but do not see them now at Staples, so guess I will give up on this machine.

I would really like a machine with both a feeder and a flatbed. Anyone know of anything like that? Appreciate any leads. Don’t need many fancy features, just a reliable fax machine that can make the occasional copy.

   
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HP has several MFPs with fax capability aimed at the small to medium business market. This one looks like a possibility for you, but do look at their other offerings. We have a similar one in a small shopfront library and it gives us no grief.

   
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Hmmm. Expensive — but maybe that is how one gets both flat scanning and feeder,

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Hmmm. Expensive — but maybe that is how one gets both flat scanning and feeder.
The one we have does decent colour laser prints and pretty good scans. But it's not that model. I'd have to wait until the library is open again on Wednesday to find out the model we have.

I do know we paid around AUD800 for it nearly three years ago, so it's probably no longer a current model.

   
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The one we have does decent colour laser prints and pretty good scans. But it's not that model. I'd have to wait until the library is open again on Wednesday to find out the model we have.

I do know we paid around AUD800 for it nearly three years ago, so it's probably no longer a current model.
Probably not — you’ve had chance to blink. <g>

My “new” H-P printer, turns out, is 7 or 8 years old. How time flies.

   
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Probably not — you’ve had chance to blink. <g>

My “new” H-P printer, turns out, is 7 or 8 years old. How time flies.
Technology time flies faster than most. Our "new" HP Printer is probably older than I think.

   
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I have my sister's old Sharp fax machine--a UX-P200--sitting in a box in my bedroom along with a new cartridge thingie for it. If you'd be willing to pay the postage, you can have it...'-}}

That said, you might take a look and see if you can find the Brother MFC-J410W all-in-one printer/fax/scanner/copier. I could have sworn I posted about this but I can't find it now...

A few weeks ago my sister's little inkjet printer died a sudden death and I suggested we just find the most inexpensive printer locally and then we'd look for the all-in-one she wanted to get--I don't care for all-in-one's myself. My neighbor mentioned that the local Office Depot always seemed to have printers on sale at a good price so off my sister and I went to see what they had.

The least expensive printer they had in stock was this little--very small footprint--Brother MFC-J410w for $59.99 and I figured, how could she go wrong at that price so she bought it. She almost bought a set of replacement carts--C, M, Y and Black--until I saw the price ($60!) and told her not to get it.

We brought it home and then set it up the next day and my sister LOVES it! It has a document feeder for scanning/faxing/copying, she finds it prints well and scans/faxes and copies well too, works wirelessly (much easier to set up than I thought it would be) and the ink carts seem to last a while--we did order a set of carts from amazon as they had the best price and she got 2 Black carts and one each of C, M, Y for just under $40 with free shipping. The best part turned out to be that my sister had a set of unused inkcarts for her old printer and Staples was willing to take them back and give her money back--$60--so basically, the new printer was already paid for...'-}}

The MFC-J410W is mac compatible and if you can find it at a good price, then I'd suggest taking a close look at it. Just checked and found it online at Office Depot for $69.99...

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Like Gillette printer makers make their money on the supplies and she will more than pay for that printer in ink costs; even if a cartridge is cheap then the amount of ink is low .....

The lowwest cost per page in inkjets is one of the HP OfficeJet MFCs I understand from one of the Compuserve printer specialists.

But Brother do make a good value low cost B&W laser printer that often sells at undre $100 in the stores.

   
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That is the nature of the inkjet printer beast...'-}}

I suggested that she go with a nice laser printer--I have an HP 2100D bought 2nd hand via ebay for just about $100--but that approach doesn't work for her. As I noted, I'm not a fan of all-in-ones but I have been impressed with this little Brother all-in-one and she's quite happy with it. I figure that if it lasts her at least a year, she won't have wasted her money and it looks fairly well made so I expect it to last longer than that.

The black cart that came with the printer--while it is the same size as the one she ordered from amazon, I don't think it had the same amount of ink--lasted her a bit over 1 month. I suggested that she make a note on her calendar when she puts one of the new (amazon ordered) carts in to see how long they will last. I suspect that she will get more pages out of the amazon-ordered carts than the ones that came with the printer.


>>But Brother do make a good value low cost B&W laser printer that often sells at undre $100 in the stores.

If she had been willing to go with a laser printer, I'd have checked ebay to see what HP's were available because I've always had HP laser printers and been very pleased with them but given--my admittedly limited--experience with HP's inkjets, I wouldn't touch one of them with a 10' pole...'-}}

I do have an inkjet printer but it's an Epson 4000 wide format that I use to print my artwork and it has 110ml carts...

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Old 07-23-2011, 05:41 PM   #10
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I've had an LJ 2200D since my 2100 burned out a couple of circuit boards and they wanted $250 each for the boards alone ...... I really apreciate the automatic duplexing.

The OJ MFC that I mentioned is the 6550 or the 8500 series -- both good

http://shopping1.hp.com/is-bin/INTER...4AAAEuAsogPjqi

Like you I prefer seperate functions in separate devices so I have the LJ, a PS 8250 for color and a scanner -- just retired my HP LJ5P which was scsi connected and wouldn't work with the 64 bit WIndows 7 so I got an Epson Perfection V33.

The scanner is OK but I don't like the software and it's very slow compared with my antique HP -- but it has some nice features like multipage scanning into one save or print.

   
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