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Old 12-09-2009, 02:53 PM   #1
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Well...I finally got around to downloading and installing Thunderbird and it looks pretty cool. I let it import my mail settings from Netscape 7.2 that looks to have been done properly.

I created a new mail account for my mail.com account for which I'd had no incoming mail since Sunday--mail.com has somehow gotten with aol so that aol is handling the mail and boy! is is awful! which is why I downloaded Thunderbird--but I guess they completed the migration this afternoon because my incoming mail finally showed up which was a relief even if I can't stand the aol interface.

Anyway, somehow I have ended up with 2 mail.com Inboxes and I can't figure out why or how to get rid of the duplicate--if I right click the dup box, there is no "delete" option. Because Thunderbird is currently chugging away downloading all of my mail in the various folders so I'm going to let it continue to do that until everything is downloaded before I try getting rid of the duplicate Inbox.

Suggestions for both getting rid of the dup Inbox and for any good add-ons for Thunderbird?

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Old 12-09-2009, 05:07 PM   #2
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I have set up T'bird for a couple of clients, so I know a bit about it. Do you have more than one email account defined?
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Old 12-10-2009, 05:18 PM   #3
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The second mail.com account disappeared as I hoped it would when I closed and then reopened T-bird so I'm set on my original question...

I do have multiple email accounts that were imported from Netscape and the import worked just fine. The mail.com account was the first email account original to T-bird...

I'm just getting back online--it's almost 9:30pm--because the power has been off all day as the master electrical panel was being replaced today. It's been a very boring day between not being able to get online, the weather being too cold to go and do anything and sitting around in the dark waiting for the lights to come on...'-}}

I'll probably be back with more questions but I need to browse around T-bird's help files first...

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Old 12-17-2009, 06:47 AM   #4
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I have set up T'bird for a couple of clients, so I know a bit about it. Do you have more than one email account defined?
I have five email accounts defined. See my questions in this thread.
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Old 12-09-2009, 06:44 PM   #5
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Well...I finally got around to downloading and installing Thunderbird and it looks pretty cool. I let it import my mail settings from Netscape 7.2 that looks to have been done properly.

I created a new mail account for my mail.com account for which I'd had no incoming mail since Sunday--mail.com has somehow gotten with aol so that aol is handling the mail and boy! is is awful! which is why I downloaded Thunderbird--but I guess they completed the migration this afternoon because my incoming mail finally showed up which was a relief even if I can't stand the aol interface.

Anyway, somehow I have ended up with 2 mail.com Inboxes and I can't figure out why or how to get rid of the duplicate--if I right click the dup box, there is no "delete" option. Because Thunderbird is currently chugging away downloading all of my mail in the various folders so I'm going to let it continue to do that until everything is downloaded before I try getting rid of the duplicate Inbox.

Suggestions for both getting rid of the dup Inbox and for any good add-ons for Thunderbird?

Thanks...

Terrie
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I still use OUTLOOK 2003... I hated thunderbird... I know I am DEBBIE DOWNER ( skit on SNL ) but... I am one of those " Fancy" people where I like to spice up my emails and put them in my font and color and send them. But with thunderbird, even if I said SEND AS HTML... people using YAHOO would get it as just black and white text as your reading it, and then sometimes it would send right! I never understood its algorithm. BLAH!

it made me so angry. So, I am still chugging along using Outlook 2003 with pop3 with my AOL email. Finally gave up on IMAP terri <G> ( Remember I was struggling with that )?

   
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Old 12-16-2009, 11:37 AM   #6
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... any good add-ons for Thunderbird?
Personally, I wouldn't be without Quicktext which lets you construct sets of frequently used chunks of text and drop them into your emails at the - how shall I put it? - click of a mouse...;-)

Are you using version 3? Haven't dared to upgrade yet until any dust has settled...

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Ahhh...Thanks! I'll take a look at it...


>>Are you using version 3? Haven't dared to upgrade yet until any dust has settled...

Yes...but since I've not used T-bird before, I don't have anything to compare it to. The one problem I am having is that for the newly defined account (vs. the accounts I ported over from Netscape), it keeps having problems with my Sent file--as in displaying a message that it can't copy to it allowing me to Retry and then displaying a message that it failed to copy to Sent but when I check Sent, the copy is there.

It's an intermittent problem and I can't quite figure out what triggers it. Originally my Sent file was quite large but I was able to copy all of the Sent file emails to a local folder and then I deleted all but one day's worth of emails from the Sent file on the aol server which appeared to have fixed the problem but after a couple of days it started again.

Have you had any sort of problem like that with the version of T-bird you are using?

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Old 12-17-2009, 12:34 AM   #8
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I don't know about the specific problem you mention. I have a large mailbox going back about 15 years I suppose and Tbird does occasionally hang and require a restart. Forums seem to suggest that, however well organised your mailboxes are, this can sometimes be caused because they need to be compacted from time to time.

I have mine set to do the compacting automatically but, well, who knows? I think your best bet is to look through Mozilla's own Tbird forum and/or post the details there.

Dealing with email archives is something I'd like to see more emphasis placed on. I don't know whether Tbird is any better, or worse, than other clients in this respect. I'd like to be able to hive off whole chunks of stuff that you know you're never going to want again... but of course, you just might want it one day...

I would recommend EZ Backup Thunderbird Premium (www.rinjanisoft.com) if you want to schedule regular backups. I use it because it can do that even while Tbird is running. It's not free but it isn't expensive either!

Not solved your problem, I'm afraid, but I hope some food for thought.

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Old 12-17-2009, 10:08 AM   #9
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Well...it's good to know it's just me rather than a common problem...'-}}


>>I have a large mailbox going back about 15 years I suppose and Tbird does occasionally hang and require a restart.

I have had my mail.com account since about 2001-ish or so and had a large volume of saved mail--both in folders and in the Sent and Trash files. When this transition to aol handling mail.com's mail occurred, I was very pleased that TB created an IMAP account rather than a POP account--nothing I did specifically so I think TB looks for IMAP and uses it by default if it's there--because I was able to download all of my mail.com data to my own hard drive.

When I began having the problem with the Sent file, because I had it backed-up to my own hard drive, I wasn't going to lose anything by deleting the majority of the Sent file data from the server and that actually did help in reducing the "indexing" actions by TB.

I think I may have narrowed down the Sent file problem to replying to emails that were in my InBox at the time of the migration--I always have some emails sitting from people I email regularly sitting in my Inbox because in the old mail.com format, it was easier to reply to someone than to write a new email because of the way the old format handled addressing.


>>I have mine set to do the compacting automatically but, well, who knows?

How do you do that? I've not found that option.


>>I'd like to be able to hive off whole chunks of stuff that you know you're never going to want again... but of course, you just might want it one day...

LOL!!! I know exactly what you mean. I've not had a chance to investigate archiving and I'm not quite sure what archiving means as it relates to TB. For me, it's not urgent because I was able to copy all of my mail.com folders to my harddrive.


>>I would recommend EZ Backup Thunderbird Premium (www.rinjanisoft.com) if you want to schedule regular backups. I use it because it can do that even while Tbird is running. It's not free but it isn't expensive either!

Thanks...I'll take a look...


>>Not solved your problem, I'm afraid, but I hope some food for thought.

No but, as I mentioned above, at least I know the Sent file issue is not common and that's a good thing...'-}}

Thanks...

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>>I have mine set to do the compacting automatically but, well, who knows?

How do you do that? I've not found that option.
Well in v2 it seems to be Tools > Options > Advanced tab > Network & Disk Space tab where you can check a box giving you the option to "compact folders when it will save over 500kB"

When I stop to think about this, though, it does raise a number of questions...

1. why would you not want to compact the folders?
2. how does it know just when to compact them? Does it try it out first to see....

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