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Old 08-24-2008, 03:14 PM   #1
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Carrying over from your herb thread...
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Yes, first by plugging it directly into the iMac (the USB hub had perished), and then by installing VueScan (because the Epson driver doesn’t work right with an Intel Mac — even though it was working before my recent computer problems).

Anyway, I need to get used to VueScan, but it seems to do a good job.
SilverFast that came with my Epson Perfection 4870 Photo four years ago has been OK and I use only the Photoshop plug-in, not the standalone software, but I've been wondering how VueScan compares; maybe I'd like it better.

I haven't been totally pleased with SilverFast, but must say the plug-in seems easier to control than the standalone app. What I really wish for is scanning software that just gives me a good, as-is image and doesn't try to out think me. I gotta admit that my old Microtek and its Photoshop plug-in did a fabulous job and didn't get in my way. If I wanted to use descreening, it did a most decent job of it. SilverFast, on the other hand, seems to try too hard and I end up scanning without descreening, fiddling around on my own post scan to knock back the moire.

I want to hear your thoughts as you play with VueScan and get used to it. If the Epson software you used was SilverFast, please compare and contrast the two.

   
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Old 08-24-2008, 05:24 PM   #2
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… If the Epson software you used was SilverFast, please compare and contrast the two.
Huh? I don’t think it was, but “compare and contrast” is some yuppy thing. I am too old for that!

   
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Huh? I don’t think it was, but “compare and contrast” is some yuppy thing. I am too old for that!
Hey, it was a Sunday afternoon and I had the snoozies, but couldn't stop for a nap, so ya gets what ya gets. In that foggy mental state I was kind of lucky I managed to string three words together and was counting on you to know what I meant!

If you were using Epson-supplied software, I'd bet it was some flavor of SilverFast.

I've just read through VueScan's online user manual and it looks to me a lot more capable and flexible than my version of SilverFast. Are you getting better scans now? Did you go for the standard or pro edition?

   
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If you were using Epson-supplied software, I'd bet it was some flavor of SilverFast.
Didn’t know that. And now I have zapped it. It was whatever you get when you download drivers from the Epson site.

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I've just read through VueScan's online user manual and it looks to me a lot more capable and flexible than my version of SilverFast. Are you getting better scans now? Did you go for the standard or pro edition?
I got the Standard edition. Meant to get the Pro, but when the screens cleared, I discovered it was the Standard. Figured I could upgrade at any time.

As for whether I am getting better scans, I don’t know. The way I used the Epson thingie, I neutralized as much as I could (no sharpening, for example) so that I could use Photoshop as needed.

But I only scanned one thing, my sprig of herb that I was trying to identify. Not exactly many tests, and not exactly standard use, either.

   
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But I only scanned one thing, my sprig of herb that I was trying to identify. Not exactly many tests, and not exactly standard use, either.
Ah, well please let me know your impressions, if you think of it, as you do more scans.

   
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Yeah, go easy on that "compare and contrast" stuff! You just gave me a bad flashback to my grade 11 Social Studies teacher

You may be a bit overwhelmed by all of VueScan's options, especially if you choose to display the "more" options, but it's pretty nice to use once you've figured out which options to use and which to ignore. I've found that it gives good scans right from the get-go, even on default settings.

What I like most is that it presents a common interface for however many scanners you might have. While it doesn't support every scanner ever made, it supports a whole mess of them (all three of mine) and it's nice not to have to look at a different interface for each scanner. Also, it's very stable in my experience, and I've never had any bad experiences. I paid for the "pro" edition which, IIRC, gives you free updates for life--another good thing. It even includes a (very) bare-bones OCR function.

   
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I paid for the "pro" edition which, IIRC, gives you free updates for life--another good thing. It even includes a (very) bare-bones OCR function.
I paid for the Pro version in 2002 and just upgraded for the first time. When I installed it, it told me politely that they'd had to change the registration method because of changes to Internet security requirements, then took me to a page where I could get the information I needed. All done within a minute or two.

   
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elyse: If you were using Epson-supplied software, I'd bet it was some flavor of SilverFast.
Not necessarily unless the mac is really different from the pc side--might be--because I use the Epson software via Photoshop for my Epson 2450 and it's definitely not Silverfast although I did get a light version of Silverfast with the scanner.

Personally, I've always found Silverfast to be very confusing and have never warmed to it--terrible, terrible documenation if I'm remembering correctly--and I found VueScan much easier to work with (even though his documenation is not the best either) but I only use VueScan with my slide scanner (a Minolta Elite II) and not with my Epson 2450...

Also...Silverfast is really pricey and VueScan was way less expensive and the upgrades are free--I think I had to pay a bit more for that unlimited upgrade license but it was still a lot less than the Silverfast cost and I think Silverfast charges for upgrades...

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Now I see — this is where Silverfast came up. I did wonder.

If my Epson scanner driver was from Silverfast, it certainly did not advertise the fact.

   
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Old 08-26-2008, 09:35 AM   #10
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i've used silverfast plebian and pro, vuescan and epson software. i would say that vuescan is more difficult, not less. i like silverfast pro as it does allow for some tweaking that you can't achieve in either.

that having been said, i use the epson software on nude settings most of the time.

on a side note i wasn't happy with any scanning software descreening, and now do it manually. works much better.
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