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Old 11-21-2007, 12:11 PM   #1
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Default I got the Helvetica movie DVD

The Helvetica documentary is my first-ever movie DVD. We don’t have a real DVD player for the television, so I (tried to) watch it on my computer.

From what I saw it is a very engaging documentary, enlivened by comments from Matthew Carter, Jonathan Hoefler, Massimo Vignelli, and many others. I hope to view it start to finish very soon.

But I do have to grouse about some annoying features. Most irritating: Really ugly outlined letters providing subtitles, evidently whether I want them or not. The way I was viewing, they were on top of the images, blocking the bottom sixth (or so) of the screen. Ugh. They simply duplicate the audio. If they are meant as closed captioning, surely they should be optional? (And surely they could have made them less ugly.)

Most of the normal (I guess) DVD functions are not available. Not sure why. I couldn’t scan ahead or backwards, for example. Why not? Maybe it is just my ineptitude, and I will explore further.

The Helvetica DVD is available through Amazon for $20 (and probably from other outlets).

   
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kt: The way I was viewing, they were on top of the images, blocking the bottom sixth (or so) of the screen. Ugh. They simply duplicate the audio. If they are meant as closed captioning, surely they should be optional?
It does indeed sound like (LOL!!) the closed captions--welcome to my world...'-}}


>>(And surely they could have made them less ugly.)

I'll take having them and being readable over anything else...


My guess is that since you are not watching via a "regular" dvd player, that you can't access all the options--like turning the captioning off...

TV DVD players are *really* inexpensive--surprisingly so--at least they were a few years ago when I decide to buy one. I got a vcr/dvd player for $80 at buy.com...they are probably even less expensive now...might be worth buying one???

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TV DVD players are *really* inexpensive--surprisingly so--at least they were a few years ago when I decide to buy one. I got a vcr/dvd player for $80 at buy.com...they are probably even less expensive now...might be worth buying one???
A regional competitor to Lowe's and Home Depot here in the Midwest has after-Thanksgiving sales flyers out this week listing two DVD players, one for $15 and another for $24. Now if only the little portable ones (with built-in screen) would drop so dramatically in price...

   
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Old 11-21-2007, 06:22 PM   #4
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I sort of knew that. It is just so rarely that we want to watch a movie on the TV that it doesn’t enter our minds.

This evening I set up the laptop so we could view the movie, and — lo and behold — we found a way of turning off the subtitles. (The closed captioning is a separate issue — though it may be the same type!)

Jack got really bored after a while, and I have a grisly cold so caved in myself. Maybe we will watch the rest of the film tomorrow.

   
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Most of the normal (I guess) DVD functions are not available. Not sure why. I couldn’t scan ahead or backwards, for example. Why not? Maybe it is just my ineptitude, and I will explore further.
I don't think I've ever tried to watch a commercial DVD on my PC, so I just tried it. Using Nero Showtime, I seemed to have all the usual DVD functions -- I could skip chapters, scan head or backwards, etc.

So maybe the limitations are in your software?

One of these days I'll have to get the Helvetica documentary. They showed it at the AFI several months ago, but it was part of a film festival, they had scheduled ONE showing of Helvetica, and it was sold out before I even found out about it.

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I don't think I've ever tried to watch a commercial DVD on my PC, so I just tried it. Using Nero Showtime, I seemed to have all the usual DVD functions -- I could skip chapters, scan head or backwards, etc.

So maybe the limitations are in your software?.
I suspect I was being dimwitted. I took it to the laptop in the dining room last night, and was able to turn off the sub-titles and otherwise control the thing.

Showed it (tried to show it) to Jack. He was fine when the people shown were people he knew or ideas he could get interested in, but he wandered off after a while, not finding anything to amuse him. (Don’t know what’s wrong with the man! <g>)

I didn’t finish it yet. Maybe this morning, with breakfast.

   
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