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Old 10-09-2007, 01:17 PM   #1
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I finally got around to installing the dvd burner a friend of mine gave me many eons ago--it's a Pioneer DVR-108 in its own firewire enclosure--and installing Nero6 which had been tableware for months...'-}}

Initially I could burn a CD using Nero6 on the new burner but Nero wouldn't recognize the inexpensive Staples DVD-R disks I bought for testing. I was going to go out today to see if I could find some TDK DVD-R disks (I like the TDK CDs I use) when I thought to see if Nero6 had an update available and sure enough there was and I was able to successfully burn a test DVD after installing the update.

I will be using the DVDs for backup image storage...

From a web search is appears that +R DVDs hold slightly less data than -R DVDs--so slight as to perhaps not make a difference...

Sooo...(finally) my questions:

1. Which DVD type do you use and why?

2. My gut says not to use dual layer and stick with single layer but is that correct?

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Old 10-09-2007, 07:39 PM   #2
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>> 2. My gut says not to use dual layer and stick with single layer but is that correct?

Last time I looked at prices, dual blanks cost at least 4x what single layer ones did. It'd be convenient at times to be able to back up 8gb at a whack, but not THAT convenient.

Besides, I'd rather have the backups on something that's more universally readable. I'm sure duals will be soon, but not yet.

   
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Old 10-10-2007, 11:10 AM   #3
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steve: Last time I looked at prices, dual blanks cost at least 4x what single layer ones did.
Ahhh...very good point...I've not had a chance to check prices yet...


>>Besides, I'd rather have the backups on something that's more universally readable. I'm sure duals will be soon, but not yet

That's important to me too...

What brand do you use and do you use -R or +R???

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Old 10-10-2007, 11:13 AM   #4
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>>What brand do you use and do you use -R or +R???

At the moment, I've got Verbatim -Rs but that's mostly because ... uh ... I got some before and they worked ok. No good reason other than that, really.

   
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Old 10-10-2007, 12:28 PM   #5
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steve: At the moment, I've got Verbatim -Rs but that's mostly because ... uh ... I got some before and they worked ok. No good reason other than that, really.
I've always avoided Verbatim--not sure why--so it's good to know they are ok...

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Old 10-11-2007, 12:37 AM   #6
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Which DVD type do you use and why?
I use DVD+R exclusively, because my Sony burner (which supposedly read/writes all formats) is very picky. It will burn a DVD-R, but then it won't read it. They are good burns, because I can read the -Rs on my laptop (which has a DVD reader only). but apparently there's a documented problem about the Sony not reading -Rs it has burned itself.

I learned a long time ago to be careful about cheap media. There are forums where people seem to do nothing but sit around all day and burn DVDs on various media and then post messages about it. So I learned what to look for and what to avoid.

The best media, most people seem to think, is made in Japan. I used to be able to find Maxells and Sonys that were made in Japan, but no longer. You can order Japanese-made media online, though.

I've also gotten good results with Verbatims made in Taiwan.

As Steve says, the dual layer media is very expensive, so I haven't bought any.

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Old 10-11-2007, 02:32 PM   #7
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marlene: I learned a long time ago to be careful about cheap media.
Indeed! I bought these Staples DVD-Rs because I wanted to test the drive I was given and not spend a lot of money on testing disks in case the drive didn't work...

I've been very pleased with the TDK CD-Rs I've bought--I buy the big spindle packs--so I'm going to look for TDK DVD (-R or +R whichever) and also, from looking at the documentation for this Pioneer drive, TDK DVDs are on every list of compatible media...


>>I used to be able to find Maxells and Sonys that were made in Japan, but no longer.

I never liked Maxell floppies so I've avoided them in other media and I don't think I've ever tried Sony media--probably because my CD r/rw is a TDK, I've stuck with the TDK media...


>>I've also gotten good results with Verbatims made in Taiwan.

That's good to know...Steve also has had good experience with them...


>>As Steve says, the dual layer media is very expensive, so I haven't bought any.

Yeah...I don't think I'll look at dual layer at all...

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>> I never liked Maxell floppies so I've avoided them in other media<<

I think Maxell blanks are excellent. I only buy Maxell CDs (Sam's Club carries the made in Japan Maxells). And I bought lots (like hundreds) of their made in Japan DVDs, but they aren't available anymore. They've shifted production elsewhere.

So I'm not sure about the currently available Maxell DVDs. Same with the Sony DVDs -- the made in Japan ones give me perfect burns every time, but I haven't tried the ones now being made elsewhere.

(I used to go to Office Depot, Staples, etc. when they had Maxells or Sonys on sale and paw through the stacks of cake boxes like an animal, looking for the "Made in Japan" printing on the label. <g>)

I've gotten fair results with TDK -- not as good as the Maxells, Sonys or Verbatims.

YMMV!

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marlene: I've gotten fair results with TDK -- not as good as the Maxells, Sonys or Verbatims.
Well...my TDK CDs are being burned on a TDK drive so that may be part of it...

I was in MicroCenter today and bought a 50 pack spindle of Verbatim DVD-Rs--had no problem burning and/or reading the -Rs on the Pioneer burner or the Lite-On DVD reader so I stuck with the -Rs...

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>>I've also gotten good results with Verbatims made in Taiwan.

I got some really cheap ones but on closer inspection, found that the label said "Verboten". They kept stopping mid-playback.

Took 'em back, got some replacements. Thought they were ok but all the audio recordings kept doing that Max Headroom chattering thing. Checked the label. You guessed it. Verbosim.

   
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