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Old 05-14-2006, 10:57 AM   #1
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Hi gang,

Yes, I'm back from the land of "in over my head -- too busy!" (at least for now). I came in search of thread archives to help me with my latest problem and can find no such archives. I am sure it has come up before, but based on the discussions sections, I cannot figure out what section I would even post my query...

I need to know if a solution is available for printing from inDesign CS2 to an HP 4M LaserJet. All I can find is to convert to a PDF and print from that PDF. I realize that the PostScript (L2) in the 4M seems to be just old enough to not work with ID CS2. Has anyone (Adobe or HP) created a "fix" yet or is it simply a matter of "buy a new printer"?

I was just looking for a cheap b/w laser printer for me to knock out flyers at the gallery without me having to use the inkjet ($$). Naturally, I want PostScript. Warren was gonna sell me his 4M for cheap to do such, but now I see this hiccup in the flow with that older PS version. Searching Adobe's and HP's website has yielded no discussion of the problem. I have picked up very few discussions elsewhere about this same prob, but no solution other than the PDF thing.

thanks in advance...

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Old 05-14-2006, 12:01 PM   #2
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I need to know if a solution is available for printing from inDesign CS2 to an HP 4M LaserJet. All I can find is to convert to a PDF and print from that PDF. I realize that the PostScript (L2) in the 4M seems to be just old enough to not work with ID CS2. Has anyone (Adobe or HP) created a "fix" yet or is it simply a matter of "buy a new printer"?
I do not remember anyone else mentioning this problem, which is probably why you didn’t find it on a search here.

I have printed directly (no PDF) to my 8 or 10-year-old LJ5000 from ID CS (not CS2) and don’t remember having any problems. I have CS2 but that printer is not available to me right now, or I would give it a test. Maybe others here with older printers and ID CS2 can see what happens for them.

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Old 05-15-2006, 07:08 AM   #3
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Ok, that's scary since I know that there are bunches of us with these old 4Ms out there. So, where would I post this query then? In what section? I have my error codes and PS version also to post.

And... are there archives in a separate place or are they just all within each section... at the bottom of the list?
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Old 05-15-2006, 07:11 AM   #4
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Ooops, sorry KT, I just noticed that you already moved the thread...

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The Windows PS driver for most of these printers allows you to choose one of several different "flavors" of PS; archival, optimized for speed, optimized for portability, etc.

If you have choices, go for portability.

Check for error handling options; on my Mac, error reporting seems to be off by default. Try turning it on if it's not already. See if you get any interesting error pages.

Also, are you using EPS images? Are they binary? Try removing them from a copy of the document and see if that makes a diff.

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Old 05-16-2006, 07:43 PM   #6
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Dang Steve, I would have sworn you'd have my magic answer!!! You are the PS "god" I was sure would know! [smile]

I tried a new doc with a single word "foo" in Times. That wouldn't print. I also tried a new doc with a line only and NO text. Same result.

Turning on the error page gave me the error mssg I reported in another reply (to myself).
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Here is the PS error code and the version of PS on the 4M...

ERROR: typecheck
OFFENDING COMMAND: known

STACK:

/@shouldNotDisappearDictValue
true
/CTHasResourceForAllBug
false
false
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PSVersion: 2011.110


BTW, I *am* working on a Mac iBook G4, also does same with my desktop G4. Two MacGeek friends had same situation with their 4Ms and both do the print-to-pdf,-then-to-printer "solution."

still bummed

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If I have it right,

typecheck means it was looking for a value of one sort and got another instead.
the known operater allows the PS to see if certain things are defined in the interpreter ... known to it.

I don't have my manuals 'n stuff handy but I'm guessing that it didn't like the look of this:

/@shouldNotDisappearDictValue

Correct or not, it's academic ... not much we can do to change the printer or the app. :-(

Hey, maybe you can sweet talk Shane into writing a script that hoiks the PS to file, funnels it to Distiller and prints automagically from Acrobat though.

   
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Hey, maybe you can sweet talk Shane into writing a script that hoiks the PS to file, funnels it to Distiller and prints automagically from Acrobat though.
If you print to Adobe PDF as the printer, you're half-way there.

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Hey, maybe you can sweet talk Shane into writing a script that hoiks the PS to file, funnels it to Distiller and prints automagically from Acrobat though.
Could this be a job for folder actions? I've never used them but I imagine it would be possible to export to pdf from ID to a folder that was set to print any file saved to it and then automatically delete the file. That would save using Distiller.

   
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Could this be a job for folder actions?
The problem, though, is that there are still a lot of options that can be set at the actual printing stage. If you're not worried about them, then it's feasible.

Rather than a folder action, which are problematic with the desktop, you could use the following saved as a script application set to stay open:

Code:
on checkForPDFs()
	-- get list of .pdf files on desktop
	tell application "Finder"
		try
			set theFiles to (every file of desktop whose name ends with ".pdf") as alias list
		on error -- work around bug
			set theFiles to (every file of desktop whose name ends with ".pdf") as alias as list
		end try
	end tell
	
	repeat with aFile in theFiles
		try -- test file's status
			set fileRef to open for access aFile -- will error if file still being written
			close access fileRef
			
			-- open, print, close
			tell application "Adobe Acrobat 7.0 Professional"
				open aFile
				with timeout of 300 seconds
					print pages active doc PS Level 2 with shrink to fit without binary output
				end timeout
				close active doc
			end tell
			
		on error
			-- file not ready yet
		end try
	end repeat
end checkForPDFs

on idle
	my checkForPDFs()
	return 5
end idle
Then every time you printed to Adobe PDF in ID, a .pdf would appear on the desktop and be opened and printed via Acrobat.

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