Here we are again !

[DTP Guy]

Nice to see that y'all have moved from Compuserve. I could not get used to that new interface and missed a lot of the interaction I loved when using an OLR.

I hope that this new home will provide that again. I no longer use Virtual Access, but use Mozilla Thunderbird instead. If I can get at this Forum with that tool, I would be very happy ! :-)

Thanks to Franca for the information about getting here. Hopefully we can meet up in London again this year when she accompanies hubby to Le Mans!

Greetings and regards to all

Brian Smithson

[ktinkel]

Originally Posted by DTP Guy

Nice to see that y'all have moved from Compuserve. I could not get used to that new interface and missed a lot of the interaction I loved when using an OLR.

I hope that this new home will provide that again. I no longer use Virtual Access, but use Mozilla Thunderbird instead. If I can get at this Forum with that tool, I would be very happy ! :-)

Thanks to Franca for the information about getting here. Hopefully we can meet up in London again this year when she accompanies hubby to Le Mans!

Greetings and regards to all

Brian Smithson

Lovely to see you again, Brian.

By Thunderbird, do you mean RSS or something else? If RSS, Frank Haber has been experimenting with it. Read about it in this thread from a couple of days ago.

We definitely have OLR access on our to-do list, but most approaches are either difficult or expensive. But we will continue to work on it, as you are not the only one to ask for it.

[DTP Guy]

Lovely to see you again, Brian.

Thanks !

By Thunderbird, do you mean RSS or something else?

Thunderbird is an email client from the Mozilla crowd (a perfect partner for the Firefox web browser). It has all of the facilities I liked in Virtual Access, such as one main messagebase into which I can view all my email and all of my newsgroups (NNTP). It also allows me to have RSS feeds into the ssame client, although I use FeedDemon for RSS reading.

It appears that I spend quite a lot of my day just reading all these things!!

Brian

[Andrew B.]

In Thunderbird's unified message base, do the messages from news groups still get threaded? And, does Thunderbird have logic that attempts to thread emails?

[DTP Guy]

Andrew

Yes, Thunderbird does thread messages in newsgroups - even the ones in Adobe's User to User Forums, which are primarily web-based.

Thunderbird also threads email messages -- one of the main things that is missing in other email clients.

I use T'Bird to thread messages from newsgroups, email and discussion groups such as those hosted by MSN and Yahoo! Granted, those last tend to feed the posted messages to the user as emails, therefore T'Bird's threading mechanism copes well with them.

In the latest incarnation (version 1.0), Thunderbird also will view folders in date order, grouped into logical groupings such as Today, Yesterday, Last Week etc., you can mark messages based on labels and construct 'Search Folders' where you specify the query against the messagebase and everytime you open that folder, the query is re-run so you have the latest info.

It is a remarkable piece of work, and when the Sunbird Calendar (also known as Lightning) project gets going, Thunderbird will have an integrated Calendar and Task List, so will truly start to rival MS Outlook.

[annc]

Originally Posted by DTP Guy

Andrew

Yes, Thunderbird does thread messages in newsgroups - even the ones in Adobe's User to User Forums, which are primarily web-based.

Thunderbird also threads email messages -- one of the main things that is missing in other email clients.

I use T'Bird to thread messages from newsgroups, email and discussion groups such as those hosted by MSN and Yahoo! Granted, those last tend to feed the posted messages to the user as emails, therefore T'Bird's threading mechanism copes well with them.

In the latest incarnation (version 1.0), Thunderbird also will view folders in date order, grouped into logical groupings such as Today, Yesterday, Last Week etc., you can mark messages based on labels and construct 'Search Folders' where you specify the query against the messagebase and everytime you open that folder, the query is re-run so you have the latest info.

It is a remarkable piece of work, and when the Sunbird Calendar (also known as Lightning) project gets going, Thunderbird will have an integrated Calendar and Task List, so will truly start to rival MS Outlook.

Hi Brian, great to see you here.

Does Thunderbird use true threading? Entourage says it threads e-mail messages, but it's really just grouping them by topic.

[DTP Guy]

Hello Ann

I don't think that Thunderbird uses true threading, but groups together on the message subject. I don't know enough about it to say definitively, but perhaps you could ask here:

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=29

or check the specs here:

http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/

Incidentally, there are versions for PC, Mac and Linux, so most bases are covered :-)

Brian

[annc]

Originally Posted by DTP Guy

Hello Ann

I don't think that Thunderbird uses true threading, but groups together on the message subject. I don't know enough about it to say definitively, but perhaps you could ask here:

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=29

or check the specs here:

http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/

Incidentally, there are versions for PC, Mac and Linux, so most bases are covered :-)

Brian

Thanks, Brian. I'll follow up on those links. I'm using Firefox here, btw. It can handle the text formatting editors in these forums better than Safari, which is my browser of choice because of its all-round elegance.

[DTP Guy]

You're welcome Ann.

How do you get on in the Forums with Firefox? I find that the thread pane keeps expanding sideways and eventually gets so big it disappears off the right hand edge of the window.

I don't know if it me or Firefox, so I use it until it annoys me and then log on with IE, where the problem doesn't seem to exist.

Maybe I will try Opera also to check on how it works with these Fourms.

[ktinkel]

Originally Posted by DTP Guy

How do you get on in the Forums with Firefox? I find that the thread pane keeps expanding sideways and eventually gets so big it disappears off the right hand edge of the window.

I don't know if it me or Firefox, so I use it until it annoys me and then log on with IE, where the problem doesn't seem to exist.

Maybe I will try Opera also to check on how it works with these Fourms.

I don’t seem to have that problem with Firefox on the Mac. Wonder if it is a question of default font size?