man and women

[PeterArnel]

do u think we are soon reaching a stage when we will not be able to call someone a man or a women (we may be there)
Peter
I know that there are some people that may be "a man or a women" but I didnt mean them

[Cristen Gillespie]

do u think we are soon reaching a stage when we will not be able to call someone a man or a women (we may be there)
Peter
I know that there are some people that may be "a man or a women" but I didnt mean them

From the title "man and women" I thought this might be about a popular news topic over here -- polygamy<G>

I don't think we're about to give up on gender, even if, as you say, there are some who may be either. LOL

[ktinkel]

do u think we are soon reaching a stage when we will not be able to call someone a man or a women (we may be there)If you mean that people object to the label “man” or “woman,” I haven’t noticed anything like that. I cannot even think when it comes up, outside of forms (and then one ticks M[ale] or F[emale]).

(If you are suggesting something subtle by using the singular “man” with the plural “women,” then I am utterly lost.)

But object to “woman”? No, not at all. It is accurate and neutral. Don’t call me a man, though — that would be offensive. :)

[PeterArnel]

I posted this in sort of fun - but soon I think on Job Application forms M or F will be omitted and only initials for first name - so that at the first job interview there will be no discrimination - in the UK at the moment there is a call not to put d.o.b. on the application form
Peter

[ktinkel]

I posted this in sort of fun - but soon I think on Job Application forms M or F will be omitted and only initials for first name - so that at the first job interview there will be no discrimination - in the UK at the moment there is a call not to put d.o.b. on the application form
PeterInteresting. I guess the idea is to hire people for their skills and abilities (in terms of strength, say), not by age or sex.

Nice idea. Wonder if it will work.

[annc]

...in the UK at the moment there is a call not to put d.o.b. on the application form
PeterIt's illegal here to ask for a date of birth on an application form. But of course, when you put in details of school, university etc. and provide copies of qualifications, as well as work history, it soon becomes obvious how old you are.

[PeterArnel]

so is sex mentioned

[donmcc]

Well, I got my undergraduate degree three years ago. It would be rather cool going to an interview where a 25 year old was expected, and a 53 year old walked in the door.

Age discrimination exists (I am pretty sure I faced it several times over the past three years of underemployment). But removing an age requirement from applications cannot remove it. Very few (no?) jobs are awarded without a personal interview. I have a really hard time passing for 25 at one of those.

[ktinkel]

Very few (no?) jobs are awarded without a personal interview. I have a really hard time passing for 25 at one of those.Not to mention passing for a young girl of 25 if that is what they had in mind! ;)

Seems to me that being silly about these things can have the opposite effect of what is intended.

[donmcc]

Not to mention passing for a young girl of 25 if that is what they had in mind!

There is that. I have often wondered how a strip club gets around the sex discrimination thing.

[Michael Rowley]

Don:

I have often wondered how a strip club gets around the sex discrimination thing

Since the anti-discrimination laws we have been talking about implement an EC Directive, possibly the Directive has a section on the subject.

[dthomsen8]

If you mean that people object to the label “man” or “woman,” I haven’t noticed anything like that. I cannot even think when it comes up, outside of forms (and then one ticks M[ale] or F[emale]).
:)

Male or Female has disappeared from voter registration forms in Pennsylvania fairly recently. "Skin color" disappeared long ago, and place of birth years before that. Foreign born, why would we want to know that?

Most of what we might want to know about identifying a voter at the polling place has disappeared from the form. Who would think of voting more than once? Nah, everybody is honest about that, right?

[dthomsen8]

There is that. I have often wondered how a strip club gets around the sex discrimination thing.
Hooters, a restaurant chain known for their shapely waitpersons, was sued for sex discrimination, but mangement proved that they had lots of male workers in other positions, such as cook, and beat those who wanted waiters rather than waitresses. Please pardon the politically incorrect terms, though.

[ktinkel]

Who would think of voting more than once? Nah, everybody is honest about that, right?Well, the election systems in most states take great pains to prevent it.

In Connecticut, you vote in neighborhood precincts in your home town or city. Once Kathleen Tinkel at my address has voted, that’s it. It doesn’t depend on what is on the registration card (which they never even ask for). Now they do ask for drivers’ license.

[donmcc]

Male or Female has disappeared from voter registration forms in Pennsylvania fairly recently. "Skin color" disappeared long ago, and place of birth years before that. Foreign born, why would we want to know that?


Yes, and now the "politically correct" crowd art trying to get such information removed from census questions. As someone who studies history, this would be a major loss for future generations of scholars who would be unable to study the shifting demographics of our, and future generations.